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  • Fixdaviz
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    • Oct 2012
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    Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

    I've searched what I could, but did not find the relationship between blown Mosfets and other problems on (or off) the Vizio inverter boards. My Master inverter board (6632L-0470A) looks like it has a partially "blasted" pin on the main integrated circuit (pin 26, I think). And when I measure across the Mosfets, one of them (MQ1) measures 76 ohms, so I expect it, or something else in it's circuit, is blown. Other Mosfets on the Master and Slave inverter (6632L-0471A) cards measure 8.5K as expected (according to other posts). None of the caps looks puffed. And the fuses on both boards measure OK (0 ohms).

    As for TV symptoms...there is no backlight, but there is an image on the screen when shining a flashlight on it with Menu selected. The backlight does not flash when the TV is turned on. I can't tell if there is working sound since I can't easily select an input, but I expect there is no sound.

    All this seems to point to classic inverter board failure, and I am considering options to fix it. Just changing the caps seems like it won't do the job if a Mosfet and an IC are blown. Is that the general wisdom here? Putting in a "kit" to replace the mosfets and the IC is a real hassle (especially for the IC). And it may not fix the root cause that blew them in the first place, which may have been a bad Capacitor. And are there reasons other than a bad capacitor that might blow a mosfet and the IC? It seems there are comments that point to Mosfets burning out on their own. Is that a pretty well known issue?

    So, next option is to replace the entire Master inverter board. But I've seen discussion that both master and slave should be replaced at the same time. And it is actually hard to find just the master at a reasonable price. So I am considering buying a master/slave set of inverter boards. It's kind of expensive, so the question is whether experts here think that is a reasonable way to go? And might there be other gotchas that I should check first so I don't just blow out the "new" inverter board(s) that I install? Are there conditions outside the inverter boards that can destroy the inverters, like short or overvoltage supplies? Basically, my question is whether most inverter board failures are typically local to the inverter board(s)?

    This forum is a great resource. If/when I get something actually resolved, I will post details of the results.

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  • drpj23
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    • May 2012
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    Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

    These are captive to the design flaw of the inverters.

    The caps, FETs, and IC will need to be changed on both of them as well as a modification (so it does not happen again).
    The only other thing to check for is that the power supply is providing the 24v and main is telling the inverters to cut on (via the first 2 or last 2 pins) One is BL_ON and other DIM BL_ON should be >3v.

    You can buy both inverters actually reasonably priced for $40-60 give or take.

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    • drpj23
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      #3
      Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

      Here is the mod kit.
      Attached Files

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      • Fixdaviz
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        Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

        Since I see an image on the screen, I am assuming most of the power supply functions are still good. Unless the 24V supply only goes to the inverters, I would expect it is still OK, but I can try to check it and the other signals.

        If I buy exact replacement inverter boards (6632L-0470A and 6632L-0471A), would I expect them to have exactly the same problem? So I would expect to need the mod for them to last? Might other inverters be compatible, but not have the original glitch, specifically 6632L-0412A/6632L-0413A inverter boards? Finally, if I do want to mod the original type boards, can I get the individual parts from DigiKey or somewhere? Are there more "exact" specs, like individual part numbers? It appears the 996510007721 kit is not available in the US (unless you know of a good US sources). It is possible to order it from the UK or DE with lots of added ship/VAT expenses.


        Originally posted by drpj23
        These are captive to the design flaw of the inverters.

        The caps, FETs, and IC will need to be changed on both of them as well as a modification (so it does not happen again).
        The only other thing to check for is that the power supply is providing the 24v and main is telling the inverters to cut on (via the first 2 or last 2 pins) One is BL_ON and other DIM BL_ON should be >3v.

        You can buy both inverters actually reasonably priced for $40-60 give or take.

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        • Fixdaviz
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          Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

          I looked at the "exact" board replacements from Shopjimmy, and the pictures actually show the mod components in place for the Zener and Cap parts (can't see the resistors if mounted under the board). So, if they ship what they show, their kits should include the mod. That makes things easier.
          Originally posted by Fixdaviz
          ...

          If I buy exact replacement inverter boards (6632L-0470A and 6632L-0471A), would I expect them to have exactly the same problem? So I would expect to need the mod for them to last? ...

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          • drpj23
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            Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

            Sure, you can assume the power supply is good but it doesn't hurt to check. And yes, as long as the boards are not from a tv chop shop, new ones should be already re-designed. I would expect Shop Jimmy to do that and, I personally, have ordered ones from Coppel.
            Just do make sure they will work with your wires (or come with some) and you will most likely not be able to use that metal shield or all the screw holes but that is OK.

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            • Fixdaviz
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              Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

              As recommended, I checked and found good 24V supply for the inverters at the power supply connectors. So I did an order for the replacement boards at ShopJimmy (Philips 996510007721 Inverter Kit). This is about all they have left in stock at this point. When they arrive, I can confirm they have the Philips mod in place. As mentioned, the picture shows zeners and caps in the right place, and the board is stamped V1.3. My boards without the mods are stamped V1.2. I ended up doing the order through Ebay with make offer. A bit of a savings, but shipping will likely be slower. So hopefully only other concern will be that the CFL tubes are in good shape. That seems to be much less common a concern compared to the regular failure on the inverter boards.

              Thanks again for this forum and your contributions. I will update as things go back together and are tested. It's too bad that the class action stuff never materialized. Seems so obvious that this relatively minor defect cost lots of people lots of money or hassle. It almost looks like the Philips inverter board kit might have been put together to provide replacements to TV service places getting lots of dead Vizio calls. The stock at ShopJimmy is like 50 which seems weird when every other inverter board option is out of stock.

              If all goes well, I may be looking for a Vizio VR2 remote. They are pretty cheap on Amazon or Ebay ($7.99 shipped). But if someone has one sitting around, please let me know...

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              Originally posted by drpj23
              Sure, you can assume the power supply is good but it doesn't hurt to check. And yes, as long as the boards are not from a tv chop shop, new ones should be already re-designed. I would expect Shop Jimmy to do that and, I personally, have ordered ones from Coppel.
              Just do make sure they will work with your wires (or come with some) and you will most likely not be able to use that metal shield or all the screw holes but that is OK.
              Last edited by Fixdaviz; 10-22-2012, 09:32 AM. Reason: Update

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              • budm
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                • Feb 2010
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                #8
                Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

                I buy VIZIO remote from Walmmart for testing Vizio TV for bout $10~12.
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • Fixdaviz
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                  • Oct 2012
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                  Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

                  Well...that went pretty well. I received the boards from ShopJimmy today, 2 days from when the order was accepted on EBay. I think it would have been 1 day if I went directly to the ShopJimmy site, and it might have been worth the extra $$ for someone in a hurry. The boards were EXACT replacements except V1.3 rather than V1.2, and they appeared to have some of the Philips Mod components on them, so I think they should not fail in exactly the same way. I installed them with no problem. Powered up and had backlight. I checked the TV on my computer (with MediaCenter) and it looks just like it should with 1920X1080 res, as expected, and with HDMI sound. I will eventually test other functions, but I expect it is all good to go.

                  So now all I should need is the VR2 remote. I'll order one from EBay or Amazon next week unless someone from the board wants to get rid of one.

                  I can recommend this method for all those TVs from all those brands that use this board set. You can see the models at the ShopJimmy web page for the board set. ShopJimmy indicated a stock of 50 - 1 (the one I bought), so 49 as of this morning. That is great availability for boards that seem in short supply otherwise.

                  Thanks to all again....Hope this helps other folks...
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                  • Fixdaviz
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                    #10
                    Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

                    Just to make it easier to find this inverter replacement thread for other TV types, here is the list from ShopJimmy of TVs that might have this problem and may use this board set to do the repair:

                    ARION AD-LC42F
                    DIGITAL LIFESTYLES LT42322
                    JVC LT-42DG8B
                    LG M4210C-BA
                    MAGNAVOX 42MF337B/37
                    MAGNAVOX 42MF521D/37
                    MAGNAVOX 42MF531D/37
                    OLEVIA 242-S11
                    OLEVIA 242-T11
                    OLEVIA 542-B12
                    PHILIPS 42MF337B/37
                    PHILIPS 42PFL5332D/37
                    PHILIPS 42PFL5522D/05
                    PHILIPS 42PFL552D/05
                    PHILIPS 42PFL7332D/37
                    PHILIPS 42PFL7422D/37
                    PHILIPS 42PFL7432D/37
                    PHILIPS 42PFL7662D/05
                    RCA L42WD22
                    RCA L42WD22YX5
                    SHARP LC-46D64
                    TOSHIBA 42HL67
                    VIZIO GV42LFHDTV10A
                    VIZIO L42HDTV10A
                    VIZIO VO42LFHDTV10A
                    VIZIO VU42LFHDTV10A
                    VIZIO VW42L
                    VIZIO VW42LFHDTV10A
                    VIZIO VW42LHDTV10A
                    VIZIO VW42LHDTV20A
                    VIZIO VX42LHDTV10A
                    WESTINGHOUSE TX-42F430S
                    WESTINGHOUSE VK-42F240S

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                    • budm
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
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                      #11
                      Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

                      Thanks for the good news, I was lucky to be able to repair and mod the boards myself.
                      The mod is the second revision, so the first mod they released did not fix the problem, I hope this second revision will really fix the problem, only time will tell.
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/albums/y...VO42LFHDTV10A/
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • MisterD
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                        • Oct 2012
                        • 668
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                        #12
                        Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

                        VIZIO VW42LFHDTV10A Do all Vizio's with this model number have the same inverter boards that are prone to this failure?

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                        • Fixdaviz
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                          Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

                          It is likely the case, but to be sure, you probably have to disassemble the TV to get the board out and check the part number. So far, the V1.3 replacement for the V1.2 boards have been holding up. So if you have V1.2 or below on your boards (if they have the same model numbers otherwise), it is possible that they will fail.

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                          Originally posted by MisterD
                          VIZIO VW42LFHDTV10A Do all Vizio's with this model number have the same inverter boards that are prone to this failure?

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                          • MisterD
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                            Re: Vizio VW42LFHDTV10A Inverter Board Failure

                            I checked and both of my inverter boards are Rev.1.3 phew! now I feel better about that.
                            I gave the wrong Model number in post #12, it's VW42LHDTV10A doesn't have the "F".
                            Last edited by MisterD; 01-13-2013, 05:44 PM.

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