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RJARRRPCGP 04-26-2018 11:17 AM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by Topcat (Post 822457)
I diddled around with this a little this morning... Mainly for testing purposes to make sure I have working hardware. This test is with the Irwindale processors. Of course this post was created from it. Wtaerfox 56.1.0 functions excellent on it. Quick load and smooth as silk browsing....although I haven't put it through the youtube test....

I now remembered one of the sucky parts about SCSI, its the slowest booting bastard, even though its U320 with a 15k RPM HDD. Once it boots, its fine (benchmarks to come when I get it to a permanent state).

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1524759264

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1524759264

Missing caddies located and replaced.
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1524759264

CPU-Z:
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1524759264

More to come, but back to my other project for now.

CPU-Z shows wrong Vcore value, SMH...

https://ark.intel.com/products/codename/5960/Irwindale

https://ark.intel.com/products/codename/6191/Paxville

Topcat 04-26-2018 11:27 AM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Now that you mention it, yea. If they were running at 2.6v, they'd be melting.

Just to be sure, I checked the BIOS monitoring, its where it should be. Bug in CPU-Z I guess....my *guess* would be that CPU-Z is adding the 2 VCORE values into one reading.

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1524763949

Stefan Payne 04-26-2018 12:40 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by Topcat (Post 819976)
This system was the freebie from the county. Stellar solid Enlight case with Enlight 470w PSU. I did the usual inspection of the PSU (whch appeared to be working)....and lo & behold, some bad fukyou caps, but otherwise its a very beefy PSU.

still a garbage PSU, as are (almost) all Topower made ones.

That one looks like it doesn't have the active PFC Board, does it??
And its either P4 or P5 series...
And the big heatsinks are due to really shity efficiency - the one's I've seen are around 65%, maybe lower 70% range...

Even if it seems fine, I'd throw it away and use a more trustworthy unit...

RJARRRPCGP 04-26-2018 12:48 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by Stefan Payne (Post 822488)
Even if it seems fine, I'd throw it away and use a more trustworthy unit...

I did that to my 2007 GeForce 7600 GS, LOL. Focking FZ caps!

Topcat 04-26-2018 01:20 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by Stefan Payne (Post 822488)
still a garbage PSU, as are (almost) all Topower made ones.

That one looks like it doesn't have the active PFC Board, does it??
And its either P4 or P5 series...
And the big heatsinks are due to really shity efficiency - the one's I've seen are around 65%, maybe lower 70% range...

Even if it seems fine, I'd throw it away and use a more trustworthy unit...

I'm not using that PSU in this build, I haven't even messed with it beyond taking the cover off. I have a couple Supermicro PSU's to choose from (a 865W and a 665W, both are Ablecom built), and those are bulletproof.

The pics shown are using a bench supply, Antec HE650 (seasonic & recapped)....good PSU's.

Topcat 04-29-2018 11:54 AM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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I piddled around with it a little this morning, I got the case debadged, sticky goo removed, and washed out.

Just a few pics...

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525024328

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525024328

So much awesome!
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525024328

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525024328

Even more elderly PC awesome!https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525024328

More later.

Topcat 04-30-2018 11:10 AM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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I assembled this system this morning. Its so nice working with well-built cases!! :rock:

I ended up using a 500w Supermicro PSU (Not sure who OEM'd this one)...Yes RD, its that one that came out of one of your new cases many moons ago. I used it in another system, and sold it a few years ago....the client upgraded and I ended up with that system back...and here we are.

Anyway, I want to change HDD's around a bit. It's running a single 146gb 15k RPM. I want to get a few more and try a few different SCSI RAID configs, for benchmarking & testing purposes....but its running & stable right now, in an awesome & clean case. Fun project for under 100 bucks! :D

Photographic goodness....

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525107830

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525107830

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525107830

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525107830

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525107830

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525107830

Here's the Crystal DiskMark for a single drive U320 15k RPM on an Adaptec 2120S RAID controller....yikes its slow compared to SAS! :eek: I'll retest this when I can run it in a raid0/10.

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525109849

I'll hunt down some drives whenever I have some more free time... This post of course created from the freshly assembled Irwindale Awesomeness.

Snayperskaya 05-02-2018 06:11 AM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
Pretty nice to see old server-grade still kicking. But I can't help and be nervous when I see a pile of boards stacked up without an ESD bag. Hahaha

momaka 05-02-2018 06:43 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by Stefan Payne (Post 822488)
still a garbage PSU, as are (almost) all Topower made ones.

That one looks like it doesn't have the active PFC Board, does it??
And its either P4 or P5 series...
And the big heatsinks are due to really shity efficiency - the one's I've seen are around 65%, maybe lower 70% range...

Even if it seems fine, I'd throw it away and use a more trustworthy unit...

No, this one is actually a pretty reliable PSU. Just has pretty low efficiency, like you said. It's basically a 5V design with a "beefed-up" 12V rail. Of course, like any oldschool design like that, don't expect to pull full total label power on the 12V rail or even half of that without some serious sag on the 12V rail. But all in all, it's a good PSU and is more than adequate for the system that it was running (sans the Quaddro FX4800, of course).

That said, be glad this PSU didn't come with APFC. Otherwise, that efficiency number would have been even worse. Not to mention make a big dent in reliability. Only real server-grade PSUs can be considered reliable with APFC, at least from what I've seen. The APFC garbage we see in consumer units today is just a ticking time bomb. A few years and *bang* goes the primary cap(s). I have seen very very FEW oldschool PSUs with voltage-doubler circuit have their primary caps go bang (usually, it's from incident with the 115/230V switch set to 115V on 230V mains). In contrast, I have seen a considerable amount of "modern" units with blown APFC circuits / primary caps - even with Japanese brands.

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Originally Posted by Snayperskaya (Post 823660)
But I can't help and be nervous when I see a pile of boards stacked up without an ESD bag. Hahaha

ESD is rarely a problem, unless you live in a really dry climate or store your stuff in a dry room environment (especially with carpet).

I too rarely store my stuff in an ESD bag. Here on the US East Coast, there's too much moisture in the air during the summer and fall for ESD to be a problem. On the flip side of that, moisture causes contacts to tarnish a lot quicker. And if you store your stuff in an underground / basement with lots of dust, that's almost equivalent of storing your stuff under water, lol.

Topcat 05-02-2018 09:15 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by momaka (Post 823815)
No, this one is actually a pretty reliable PSU. Just has pretty low efficiency, like you said. It's basically a 5V design with a "beefed-up" 12V rail. Of course, like any oldschool design like that, don't expect to pull full total label power on the 12V rail or even half of that without some serious sag on the 12V rail. But all in all, it's a good PSU and is more than adequate for the system that it was running (sans the Quaddro FX4800, of course).

Thats why I didn't use it in this build....I'm going to recap it and store it for a retro box....some oddball P-classic through P3 era system. This system would be a little overwhelming for it, not only for the higher TDP netburst CPU's, the FX4800, and then add in 4x 15,000RPM HDD's (the originals were 2x 9.1gb 7200RPM)...

brethin 05-03-2018 02:25 AM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
Those systems are great fun to build but none want them. I have a room full of fun builds going back to the 8086 8088 days and while I love them like my kids, all they do is take up space and collect dust.☹️

ratdude747 05-03-2018 08:11 AM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by brethin (Post 823861)
Those systems are great fun to build but none want them. I have a room full of fun builds going back to the 8086 8088 days and while I love them like my kids, all they do is take up space and collect dust.☹️

I have one (X6DA8-G2, Twin 3.8 Irwindales w/ Geforce 9800GT GPU) as my living room PC. Does that make me weird? :goofy:

It struggles a bit on 1080P 60 frame youtube videos :( , but otherwise it does what it needs to...

RJARRRPCGP 05-03-2018 11:34 AM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 823903)

It struggles a bit on 1080P 60 frame youtube videos :( , but otherwise it does what it needs to...

By how much? A jerk fest like a later-2010s Braswell laptop CPU?

The (Pentium N3700, IIRC) laptop that was given to my sister was shit, when it came to 60 FPS 1080p YouTube videos!

ratdude747 05-03-2018 12:35 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP (Post 823939)
By how much? A jerk fest like a later-2010s Braswell laptop CPU?

The (Pentium N3700, IIRC) laptop that was given to my sister was shit, when it came to 60 FPS 1080p YouTube videos!

Stutters every 3-10 seconds. Lots of buffering but not due to the actual buffer.

Topcat 05-03-2018 01:15 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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...and another strange sleeper is born... Finally got around to testing this X6DAL. It's the DDR1 version, I've got 8x 2gb sticks, so populating all 6 slots gives me 12gb.....good enough. It flunked the Paxville test, it would only recognize one CPU (both cores), but socket 2 was not seen. This board came with a pair of 3.6GHz Irwindales, of course both CPU sockets show and function with the Irwindales installed.

...but I've got a couple old P3-era beige Aopen cases that this might fit nicely in...

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525374843

RJARRRPCGP 05-04-2018 01:29 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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Originally Posted by ratdude747 (Post 823942)
Lots of buffering but not due to the actual buffer.

I think I had that kind of issue before, even with a Core 2 and later, IIRC, LOL.

Topcat 05-05-2018 12:05 PM

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...and here's the start...I'll just throw this build into this thread since they're kind of 'cousins', no need for a new one.

What better use for an old beige Aopen case...
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525543396

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525543396

Some modifying will be required (which makes it more fun anyway):
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525543396

Old mATX P4 system (momaka, let me know if you want it, it works).
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525543396

More to come....

noppa 05-05-2018 06:17 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
Maybe you should try an updated version.


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Originally Posted by RJARRRPCGP (Post 822467)


Topcat 05-05-2018 08:45 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
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...and looky what turned up in the junk pile... :D

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...1&d=1525574663

ratdude747 05-05-2018 10:32 PM

Re: Paxville or Bust! The Supermicro X6DA8 Project
 
^I have the PNY "energy efficient" version in my irwindale box... slighly less performance (underclocked a tad), but uses a slimmer heatsink and is under 75W (no PCIe power connector, which is good since that PSU doesn't have it).


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