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  • Junk Parts
    Court Jester
    • Jun 2006
    • 8953
    • USA

    #1

    Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

    Yes I had to go and open this can of worms, but I do have a few things to say here. Before I start this is the rig I have used while trying these different operating systems. Dell Dimension 4550, 2.4 P4 Northwood core, One gig Crucial RAM, Western Digital 7200RPM WDC WD600BB Hard Drive, ATI Radeon 7000 video, Intel Pro/100 10/100 LAN chip. Ceative Sound Blaster Live add in sound card.
    The first OS I tried was Ubuntu 7.04. At first I ran it in live CD mode. The OS would only see one DVD drive, and didn't pick up my LAN chip at all. Now it ran ok but I wasn't able to get online with it so it was pointless for me. Thinking that a full install would be better I changed out my hard drive to my backup clean WD400BB, and installed Ubuntu. This time it did pickup my LAN, and I could use the net. DVD RW Drive "E" was still missing. The OS was now functional but I was badly missing all my "Candy" that I use with Xp. I know I could have downloaded replacements for most of this stuff to run with Ubuntu but I just didn't feel like dealing with it at the time. Because of the missing "E" drive, and other small problems I can only give this OS a C+. For a power user who wanted to fix all the little issues it would be a functional, and good OS. It just isn't right for my dumb ass. Keep in mind that nothing I am saying here is " scientific." Its just from my dumb users prospective. Oh the "Speed" was just as good or better than Windows Xp Home.
    At RatDudes urgings I ordered up a newer version called Kubuntu 9.04. I tried this CD in Live mode and it WORKED fine! Even in "Live" mode it picked up all the junk in my PC. I was online with it in seconds. Didn't play with it long in live mode but I can and do say as and OS it works and didn't make my little brain hurt too much. Having learned a new trick here on the forum I installed "Virtual Box 3.0" in my windows Xp Home sp3 PC. Next I installed the Kubuntu in a newly created virtual machine. It went without a hitch. The Virtual Box Emulator program does slow my POS to a crawl so I can't comment on speed too much here, but it was fast enough for me. The thing is that Kubuntu worked, and it worked very well. It has a great web browser in it called "Konqueror." Its faster than my IE8 hands down. I also love the Auto spelling check feature of this browser. RatDude says that there is a version of "Konqueror" out for Xp and I'm going to try it soon. I will be building a PC and Kubuntu will be the OS. This is going to be a learning, and the real test situation for me and Kubuntu. By the way I like the KDE interface too. I only had one small issue with it. I couldn't find "START" button to shut the program down. Who would have ever thought to call this button "LEAVE!" Just maybe this Kubuntu is the Linux for everybody.
    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
    Mark Twain

    "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
    John Paul Jones

    There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
    Rod Serling
  • etnietering
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2009
    • 379
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

    Sometime, when I get around to it, I'm going to put 64-bit kubuntu on my core i7 computer. I run debian on my server, and my old PII gateway solo laptop has Xubuntu on it, which runs faster than windows 98 ever did...

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    • acstech
      GrumpyModerator
      • Jul 2007
      • 1432
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

      Sounds like you got bit by the Linux bug JP. I think your success with 9.04 has more to do with it being 2 versions newer than the 7.04 you tried the first time, than the "K" part of the Kubuntu.

      I personally think that KDE looks too much like Windows for my taste. But that's just my opinion. I'm running Gnome and it works fine for me.

      The Fedora I'm running takes a little configuration to get little things like MP3 and video playback working, but that doesn't take long and I only have to do it once when I install a new version.

      Try and play around with Compiz. It's fun.

      Oh, and if you're building a computer for Linux, make sure the hardware you get is compatible before you buy it! Hardware that's incompatible because it's too new really sucks.
      A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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      • Junk Parts
        Court Jester
        • Jun 2006
        • 8953
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

        Now I knew that it was on the way....I'm not dumping windows. I'm just trying it. Be kind...
        "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
        Mark Twain

        "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
        John Paul Jones

        There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
        Rod Serling

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        • Junk Parts
          Court Jester
          • Jun 2006
          • 8953
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

          By the way I love windows Xp by the way....
          "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
          Mark Twain

          "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
          John Paul Jones

          There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
          Rod Serling

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          • ratdude747
            Black Sheep
            • Nov 2008
            • 17136
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

            well i DID dump windows. too bloated, restrictive, and expensive. i LOVE linux. i left windows about 1.5 years ago and did not look back.
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            • KeriJane
              Mac Enthusiast
              • Sep 2008
              • 681
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

              Yay!

              Way to go JP.

              Maybe I'll try Kubuntu 9 sometime.
              Perhaps this is the big one that's bound to come along eventually.



              Have fun,
              Keri
              We'll get you to jump off the good ship Microtanic (Titanisoft?) yet!

              PS. I'm on the OSX Lifeboat, Ratdude is on the Linux one on the other side of the ship
              The More You Learn The Less You Know!

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              • ratdude747
                Black Sheep
                • Nov 2008
                • 17136
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                hang on for ubuntu 9.10- as the alpha 6 version is coming along, it boots/runs faster and has prettier icons, new app installer (add/remove programs is being replaced with software store). software store is actually free programs only, and such the y will likey change the name. but it install apps as you select them, as oppsed to the old lump-sum method of querying coommands and then executing them all at once. it intals stuff so much faster.

                also, the login is re-worked a ton. it has a menu-based interface by default, as opposed to the old enter name-> enter password routine. just select your username from the list and enter your password and you are good.

                open officw is upgrded to 3.1 in this release. ff is 3.5 . also, a new and more advnced (and faster) bootloader, grub2 is included. ext4 is the new default file system (it will do ext 2/3 as well if you need it to, as will orginal grub).

                but the niced feature is the addition of ubuntu one, ubuntu's implementation of cloud computing. ubutu one give anybody who registers with launchpad 2gb online storage free or 10gb for a per-month fee ($4 i think). it is integrated into 9.10, and available as an app for 9.04.

                if you can, i'd download the iso and make a fresh disc of 9.10 and try it out... even off the cd, it goes pretty fast.

                btw, the k is a turn off to me:

                -everything starts with a k or q... annoying and too apple-like (ironically)- i___. iPod, iWork, iS**t ...
                -inferior apps. amorok has no wma support (not a problem now since i converted them all), konquer is unsupported on many sites (where chrome, ff, and opera are not)

                -everything is crammed on one menu bar when it should be split onto 2.

                i like my ubuntu. it lets me be a technical as i want while still performing well on slower hardware.
                Last edited by ratdude747; 09-26-2009, 10:45 PM.
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                • acstech
                  GrumpyModerator
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1432
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                  Originally posted by ratdude747
                  -everything starts with a k or q... annoying and too apple-like (ironically)- i___. iPod, iWork, iS**t ...
                  Oh, you mean like...

                  A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                  • Junk Parts
                    Court Jester
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 8953
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                    Now hold you horses there KeriJane!...LOL I'm not a convert to Kubuntu Linux as of yet.... It could happen in time. I still like the "Fine Ship Microsoft. Going to put Vitual Box on my 1.8 P4 Lappy to see how it handles Kubuntu 9.04. If it works on it ok then I'll do a full install.
                    RatDude I went looking for that Kubuntu 9.10 you spoke of but I couldn't find it to download. Help me out. Send me a link or something.
                    My desk is huge and I plan on putting the AMD 533 Kubuntu PC up here with another monitor right beside the Dell WINDOWS XP HOME PREMIUM PC. Now KeriJane can we still be friends with me being pro windows and you being Apple Snow Lepard and Linux???? I hope so....LOL
                    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                    Mark Twain

                    "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                    John Paul Jones

                    There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                    Rod Serling

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                    • ratdude747
                      Black Sheep
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17136
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                      no, not kubuntu, ubuntu. its so much better.

                      for ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6:

                      http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/alpha-6/

                      for kubuntu 9.10 alpha 6:

                      http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/re...armic/alpha-6/

                      for xubuntu 9.10 alpha 6: (for lower-powerwed system, would run very well on the k6-2)

                      http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/re...armic/alpha-6/


                      note- the live cd will display errors when booting, please disregard, it will boot. if you do install, run update manager to keep on track.

                      note2- the beta will be out soon... ill let you know when it is.
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                      • ratdude747
                        Black Sheep
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17136
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                        Originally posted by acstech
                        Oh, you mean like...
                        my friend has that shirt.

                        but on that thread...



                        thats what i mean. microsoft and apple nullify your rights.
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                        • NxB
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1595

                          #13
                          Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                          http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php

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                          • KeriJane
                            Mac Enthusiast
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 681
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                            Originally posted by Junk Parts
                            Now KeriJane can we still be friends with me being pro windows and you being Apple Snow Lepard and Linux???? I hope so....LOL

                            Well of course we can, JP!

                            You haven't called my computer or even its mouse horrible things... unlike some others that I'm still willing to be friends with.

                            Have Fun,
                            Keri

                            PS. Besides, I just know that you'll see the light and realize that the Iceberg has been struck before all the Lifeboats are full.
                            The More You Learn The Less You Know!

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                            • ratdude747
                              Black Sheep
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 17136
                              • USA

                              #15
                              Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                              im sorry that i dont like your mouse... at least we can agree that windows sucks.
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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                                Originally posted by NxB
                                not 'buntu. why did you post that? what makes it better?

                                edit- it is a buntu in a way, but i looked it up and it didnt seem to have an advantage over ubuntu for his or my use.
                                Last edited by ratdude747; 09-27-2009, 07:43 PM.
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                                • Junk Parts
                                  Court Jester
                                  • Jun 2006
                                  • 8953
                                  • USA

                                  #17
                                  Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                                  Now KeriJane how in the world can I call your Apple computer and mouse horrible things....The last time I used an Apple Computer was way way way back there in time. It was and Apple II Mac I think. It was the one with the monitor built on top of the part with the computer guts in it. I know it wasn't a Lisa but I did put a working Lisa in the trash bin some years ago. Yes you can call JP a dumb ass now if you want to. I deserve it! Wish I had it now!
                                  RatDude now wants me to switch from Kubuntu 9.04 to Ubuntu 9.10. I'm going to download all the flavors that he spoke of, and try them all one by one. You didn't hear me say this, and don't tell my friends here on the forum but I think that I may be on to something good with this "buntu" stuff! LOL What do you think I'm using as an OS right now? Hint: It isn't Xp! Yes I'm on Kubuntu 9.04. I didn't even have to worry about setting up the partitions to do a dual boot system! The dang Kubuntu gave me a dual boot as and install option! Maybe someday sooner than you think I will be saying this to Microsoft !!!!
                                  "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."
                                  Mark Twain

                                  "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way."
                                  John Paul Jones

                                  There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
                                  Rod Serling

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                                  • ratdude747
                                    Black Sheep
                                    • Nov 2008
                                    • 17136
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                                    any mainstream distro of linux+dual boot via grub/grub2= EASY!!!
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                                    • acstech
                                      GrumpyModerator
                                      • Jul 2007
                                      • 1432
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                                      Originally posted by KeriJane
                                      You haven't called my computer or even its mouse horrible things... unlike some others that I'm still willing to be friends with.
                                      What... all I said was "superior Apple hardware." What's wrong with that?

                                      Actually I've got nothing against people that use Mac. If it works and does what you want it to, then great. It's just that I'm in the business of selling PC's, not Macs. Macs don't make me money. Instead it goes to a large corporation in the Peoples Republic of California. You'd think people would want to support their local businesses. Oh well.

                                      I have no love for Microscr..., er, Microsoft either. I'd have fewer come-backs if it weren't for their half-baked software. Then again, I'd be missing out on a lot of service money. Decisions, decisions.

                                      So what are we left with? Linux.

                                      Keep in mind I've got nothing against you Keri. You're using what you like, and that's great. I, however, have some issues with the Mac OS, and Apple in general. You won't get me to say that it's better, because I don't believe that it is. That's all there is to it.
                                      A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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                                      • washu
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Jul 2009
                                        • 310

                                        #20
                                        Re: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Linux

                                        Junk Parts: There was no Apple II model with a built in monitor*, or such thing as an "Apple II Mac". The Apple I / II / III were separate lines from the Macs. Only the Lisa and some Macs have built in monitors. You were probably using a compact Mac or possibly an LC 5XX.

                                        * To be really pedantic you could put a IIe emulator card in an LC 5XX and have an "Apple II with built in monitor", but that was never a shipped configuration.

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