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  • keeney123
    Lauren
    • Sep 2014
    • 2536
    • United States

    #41
    Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

    Thanks Spork. I am moving tomorrow to MA. Then I have to register a car. I had to sign documents for an apartment. I have to move my stuff from my sister's house to my apartment. After I do all this stuff I will get back with you. Spork I like the easiest way. I don't have any ego in doing it myself and I do not want to be a programmer. You should be tech support for Microsoft. I almost feel like keeping a computer. As I said before I like painting. Now being up in North Adams with my own car I can paint beautiful scenery. My specialty is portrait painting. I am getting a little bored with that so scenery would be a nice change.

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    • Spork Schivago
      Badcaps Legend
      • Mar 2012
      • 4734
      • United States of America

      #42
      Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

      Originally posted by keeney123
      Thanks Spork. I am moving tomorrow to MA. Then I have to register a car. I had to sign documents for an apartment. I have to move my stuff from my sister's house to my apartment. After I do all this stuff I will get back with you. Spork I like the easiest way. I don't have any ego in doing it myself and I do not want to be a programmer. You should be tech support for Microsoft. I almost feel like keeping a computer. As I said before I like painting. Now being up in North Adams with my own car I can paint beautiful scenery. My specialty is portrait painting. I am getting a little bored with that so scenery would be a nice change.
      I must have missed the painting thing before. I got a best friend named Jason. I have a couple best friends. I guess all my true friends, they're my best friends. For Christmas, a long time ago, I bought him this drawing thing for his PC because he's really artistic. It was something called a Wacom and it cost over 500$. I don't remember the exact price. It was really large. He still uses it to this day. It took him awhile to get used to it. At first, he just used it as a mouse! But as time progressed, he really got good with it.

      If he doesn't use it anymore, I can see if he'd be willing to sell it. You should send me some digital copies of your art. I always love looking at art. I like the more abstract type of stuff. When you're ready, let me know, I'll send you a PM to the install.wim and we'll see how it works for you. I think you'll be happy with it.
      -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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      • junktv
        Badcaps Legend
        • Nov 2010
        • 3063
        • USA

        #43
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        Hospital IT is scary. Came in to depressing department in a storm and all computers down other than laptops. Something about a power loss. So there I sat not happy in a sad place being told i'd have to wait and IT has been working on it. Asked a couple questions and keep it simple stupid I thought. So told one to unplug that pc count to 30 seconds and plug it back in. BOOM it worked. 5 minutes later the all-in-wonders were up in that part. I still got a bill for that visit. Pretty sure they were on 7.

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        • Spork Schivago
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2012
          • 4734
          • United States of America

          #44
          Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

          Originally posted by junktv
          Hospital IT is scary. Came in to depressing department in a storm and all computers down other than laptops. Something about a power loss. So there I sat not happy in a sad place being told i'd have to wait and IT has been working on it. Asked a couple questions and keep it simple stupid I thought. So told one to unplug that pc count to 30 seconds and plug it back in. BOOM it worked. 5 minutes later the all-in-wonders were up in that part. I still got a bill for that visit. Pretty sure they were on 7.
          Maybe it matters what hospital or do you think they're all like that?

          I saw how some hospital, I think, was under a DDoS attack. The hackers said they'd stop if they received 15,000$. Sure enough, the hospital paid. I think that's horrible that they'd go after something like a hospital. Some of those machines could mean life or death. My wife's Aunt has this machine in her body that connects to her heart. It also connects to the hospital somehow. I don't know if it's wireless or what. If her heart breaks, it somehow fixes it by zapping it or something. One time, something went wrong it and it just kept zapping her and it kept getting stronger and stronger. They had to login somehow and fix it.
          -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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          • junktv
            Badcaps Legend
            • Nov 2010
            • 3063
            • USA

            #45
            Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

            IT is like that all over. This is a good hospital with mostly decent docs although lost good ones over obama care. It and one close has saved my life a few times. The other one has or had a legit code monkey hacking away. I figure it was a priority issue. I just wanted to get out of there and seen kind people and dieing people waiting so glad my idea worked.

            That is called a pacemaker lol.

            I call bullshit on the attack.
            Last edited by junktv; 04-28-2016, 10:09 PM.

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            • Spork Schivago
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2012
              • 4734
              • United States of America

              #46
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              You think the hospital lied about the attack? And yeah, it's called a pacemaker. She's had a few of them. They just keep messing up. When she was at work, they had to bring some specialist in and he connected to it via some laptop to fix it. I guess it was his first time doing it but he fixed it some how.
              -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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              • Spork Schivago
                Badcaps Legend
                • Mar 2012
                • 4734
                • United States of America

                #47
                Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                It wasn't 15,000$ and a DDoS. It was a ransomware thing. I remember now, my friend told me about the story. It was 17,000$ and they encrypted their files. The hospital paid the money. They said in this article it's becoming more and more common for this to happen and most of the time, the hospitals pay. I think that's just horrible.

                http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/bu...tack.html?_r=0
                -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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                • junktv
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3063
                  • USA

                  #48
                  Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                  Again hospital IT is scary/

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                  • Spork Schivago
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 4734
                    • United States of America

                    #49
                    Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                    I'm going to have to format and install 7, then restore his backup. This PC is infected. It's running McAfee, so I pulled the hard drive and scanned it with Norton. That found a few things. Then I ran Malwarebytes on it, that found a few more. I think at this point, to be on the safe side, I'm just gonna backup and reinstall. I'm pretty sure there's some rootkit on there, maybe TDSS.

                    I'm going to have to contact him and figure out what programs he wants back on there. Some are old and haven't been used since 2012. I'm thinking of trying to find a way to backup his account info for iTunes, McAfee, Slingbox, etc so when I reinstall it, it's all setup for him. I'll ask him first and see if he wants to just sign in for the various programs and install McAfee himself.
                    Last edited by Spork Schivago; 04-30-2016, 10:20 PM.
                    -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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                    • diif
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 6978
                      • England

                      #50
                      Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                      Originally posted by Spork Schivago
                      It wasn't 15,000$ and a DDoS. It was a ransomware thing. I remember now, my friend told me about the story. It was 17,000$ and they encrypted their files. The hospital paid the money. They said in this article it's becoming more and more common for this to happen and most of the time, the hospitals pay. I think that's just horrible.

                      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/bu...tack.html?_r=0
                      The hospitals should pay for decent IT, there are various precautions that can be taken to mitigate crypto attacks and offline backups mean they have little effect.

                      Pay and they will keep attacking. I don't think they are targeted attacks, with the rise of exploit kits and massive networks that clearly aren't managed properly its fairly easy to get compromised.

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                      • stj
                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 30937
                        • Albion

                        #51
                        Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                        hospital networks should not be on the net - that would solve most of it.

                        i know a big financial place where all the pc's have epoxy in the usb ports to stop dickheads plugging usb sticks into the machines and infecting them or stealing data.
                        that's the type of security mentality that is needed!

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                        • keeney123
                          Lauren
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2536
                          • United States

                          #52
                          Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                          Spork just wanted to let you know I made it to my sister place in MA not ready for you download yet. If you want to mail it to my email address that would be OK. I guess you would have to get that from an administrator. I do not want to post it here.

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                          • trebo
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 514
                            • Wales, UK

                            #53
                            Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                            It would be safe in a PM, wouldn't it???

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                            • Spork Schivago
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 4734
                              • United States of America

                              #54
                              Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                              Originally posted by diif
                              The hospitals should pay for decent IT, there are various precautions that can be taken to mitigate crypto attacks and offline backups mean they have little effect.

                              Pay and they will keep attacking. I don't think they are targeted attacks, with the rise of exploit kits and massive networks that clearly aren't managed properly its fairly easy to get compromised.
                              Yes, you're right! Also, I know where I used to work, I wrote up some of those fancy things, what the heck did I call them? I don't remember. I'm having one of those days! Anyway, it was like a Standard Operating Procedure. We had a chat server installed but some people liked to use AIM. We used Jabber but for certain users, we had the AIM protocol installed. At first, certain supervisors / managers were installing AIM instead of the Jabber client. I wrote up rules that the company adopted that prevented that.

                              One of the programs that was huge with AIM was this thing for smiley faces or something. It was cute, but I printed out the TOS. It was like 56 pages! I'm thinking, why would there be suuuuch a long TOS for AIM smiley faces? I read the whole thing and in the middle of it, it says by installing the program, you give them permission to take screen shots of your computer and access your files for advertising purposes. I think the idea was spy on the user, see what they're into, and advertise towards the stuff they like.

                              We dealt with bank accounts! Social security numbers, credit card numbers, etc. That was a huge no!!! After I found out what the program was doing, I wrote up the paper and we allowed only inside communications via the chat client. Workers shouldn't have had access to the outside world like that anyway, even if they were supervisors, unless they absolutely needed it. And then, only if they weren't on machines with personal info.
                              -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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                              • Spork Schivago
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 4734
                                • United States of America

                                #55
                                Re: Doctor's laptop and odd programs.

                                Originally posted by keeney123
                                Spork just wanted to let you know I made it to my sister place in MA not ready for you download yet. If you want to mail it to my email address that would be OK. I guess you would have to get that from an administrator. I do not want to post it here.
                                I was thinking PM would be fine. It's going to take me a day or two. I'm having some issues here but I'm working them out.
                                -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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