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    Clunk, Clunk and Clunk!!

    Hello everyone,

    I have a 17.2GB Seagate HDD which has some trouble right now. It will spin up and then it will go clunk while it's spinning. The clunking noises have a 1-2 second gap.
    I bought it off my friend for $2 as faulty. He had this happen to him so he got pissed off with the drive and stab and scratched the drive with a screwdriver. It doesn't look too serious.... just a few dents here and there.

    Anyway, is there anything that I can do to get the drive to spin up properly again??
    Currently it's sitting in my freezer in a plastic bag because I am trying out this freezer driver method that I have heard so much about.
    I'm just wondering, do I have to let it warm back up to room temperature before I boot up the drive again?? or can I just leave it freezing cold??

    Thanks.
    Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous
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    #2
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    i would never trust my data to this crap
    capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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      #3
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      The freezer trick is only to get data off the drive, you boot it ice cold and can generally copy data off it as long as it's cold, when it heats up it fails again

      Either due to the tracks being misaligned with the head, or that the bearings are really poor and the decreased viscosity of the oil make the whole spindle more stable...
      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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        #4
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        The clunk-clunk is the drive attempting to recalibrate... it is whacking against the stop during the re-zero process. Your drive is dead.

        In the Bad Ol' Days, the freezer trick was for sticktion problems. Either the heads or spindle bearings were mired in congealed lubrication and prevent spinup.

        The freezer trick is a 1.0 adventure: it works once only. You must have the drive attached to a platform ready to receive the data, because it very seldom starts a 2nd time. I have used this trick successfully several times, over many years.

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          #5
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          unless you need the data on this drive take it apart for its magnets.
          put a fork in it its done.

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            #6
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            and those rings you can make keyrings with
            and the shiny discs to do shiny stuff with
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              #7
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              Originally posted by willawake
              and those rings you can make keyrings with
              and the shiny discs to do shiny stuff with
              disk patters + fishing line =windchimes!

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                #8
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                OK it's dead. I'm going to strip it for its magnets. I froze it last night and took it out this morning with the same result.
                Don't find love, let love find you. That's why its called falling in love, because you don't force yourself to fall, you just fall. - Anonymous

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                  #9
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                  I have resurrected a IBM 2,5" drive from a NC6000 with a hard push at startup (it has had the same noisy failure). It was only as a last resort to get it working for a emergency backup.

                  After the last hard push from the desperate owner it was recognized again from BIOS and the backup was no problem.

                  The drive was running like new, even repeated on / off cycling has not hurt it again.
                  Even the installed Windows Xp pro was working again as ever before.

                  Any way, as the warranty replacement drive was already build in from the service tech (and he has seen and recognized the failure), there was no problem to prove the initial defect of the drive.

                  Initially, i suggested this option merely as a joke / last resort to the owner, as he had ruled out a professional recovery service.

                  Personally i would not use any HDD with an history of error for my personal use.
                  Only for unimportant things like time shift recording files or similar.

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                    #10
                    Re: Clunk, Clunk and Clunk!!

                    Do people by the magnets? I'm rich!

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                      #11
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                      >>> hard push at startup <<<
                      ?????
                      Means???

                      I have used kill-disk on drives (writes zeros to the whole drive) that were screwing up and they started working again. - Only works once in a while.

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                        #12
                        Re: Clunk, Clunk and Clunk!!

                        Well, when the hdd is not recognized in BIOS anymore, you can`t use the usual programs.....with a hard push i mean switch the system on while holding the hdd in your hand then give it a horizontal slap thats all.

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                          #13
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                          Any particular direction of force?
                          Mann-Made Global Warming.
                          - We should be more concerned about the Intellectual Climate.
                          -
                          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
                          - Dr Seuss
                          -
                          You can teach a man to fish and feed him for life, but if he can't handle sushi you must also teach him to cook.
                          -

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                            #14
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                            I tried the hard push method with no success on this Seagate drive. I had an IBM Deskstar a while back that had a motor which wouldn't start up properly. A firm push to the hard drive solved all the problems.
                            Last edited by stevo1210; 12-27-2007, 06:22 AM.
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                              Originally posted by stevo1210
                              A firm push to the hard drive solved all the problems.
                              I had an old Quantum 162 MB HDD (Pro Drive LPS) like that. Whacking it seems to solve it when it don't spin up or spin up all the way. Seems to only do it when the HDD is cool enough that it feels cool on your hands. (more likely when 59 F and below)
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                                #16
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                                I've had what sounds like a similar problem on 2x 120GB 7200.7 drives. It would be running fine, then suddenly I'd notice the computer is stalled and the 120GB drive is repeatedly trying to spin up, then clunk, and tries to spin up again, clunk, etc.
                                Power cycling would make it work again.
                                I had this happen on the first drive and I sent it in to Seagate for replacement. The replacement worked fine for a few months, then started doing exactly the same thing. Around that time I realized that this was also the same problem I had on an old Maxtor 40GB D740X drive. I finally made the connection - all these 3 drives had been connected to a PowMax 400W psu, and all had the same failure symptoms. I finally appreciated the evilness of bad power supplies, and removed that junk from my case.

                                I've been running that replacement 120GB 7200.7 drive on a test bench for probably 9 months now with no problems at all, connected at different times to a few different psus (but only decent ones now). I'm pretty convinced that stupid PowMax damaged it, but not enough to ruin it completely. It seems a good power supply still runs it properly, but I'm not able to trust it anymore for anything important.

                                Anyway, it seems a bad psu can cause this problem to develop over time. Hopefully your friend doesn't use a PowMax.

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