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  • ratdude747
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    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
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    #1

    Dell Poweredge score

    Yup, here comes yet another ratdude pictorial. Grab your popcorn, as this one is fun! (aren't they all?).

    Today's guest is a Dell Poweege 830 Pedistal server:



    ...That I bought for $20:



    The good news: It inluded the keys for the lock. The bad news: it's is less than complete condition (mostly there)

    It had 3 of the four HDDs with it:





    I haven't tested them yet but presumably they're good (unlike the drives in my parents file server, which this machine will replace). OT: If you have a drive similar to these you'd like to get rid of (trade/sell), PM me, as I may try to get a 4th drive and caddy (although I may just RAID 5 it and call it a day).

    If those drives are stock, for a late model P4/Pentium D this system is awful new; as we'll see the RAID card is somewhat recent too.

    It originally ran Server 2003:



    The inside was, well, a mess:



    Everything is there, minus the Raid's BBU (which probably was never there but at $15 a pop Genuine used, I'll snare one) and some (I2C?) 5 or so wire cable between the SAS caddy and the card it's all there; It will need a new CPU latch (as one is busted, hence why the heatsink is on the ground)... Oh, and I totally dig the latched ribbon connections. Not even Supermicro and Tyan go that far! (although ususally there isn't room).

    The CPU is a Pentium 4 630 (prescott 2M HT 3.0GHz) and it has a measly 1GB of DDR2 RAM. I have a 3.2GHZ version in the current file server (a repurposed emachine) and I have 8GB of ECC DDR2 (which supposedly is compatible) sitting that I may toss in... the RAM may be overkill for a file server though.

    It had a couple kickass cards:



    That's an LSISAS1068 SAS card... no BBU. I hear it's pretty spiffy though (shame it's using 72K drives)... 256M of RAM (ECC DDR2). I have a 512MB DDR2 module of the same type somewhere... good idea to swap?

    And then there is the SCSI host card:



    I have NO use for such a thing... but holy cow. Monster of a card (not HW raid though, I bet those are real monsters).

    It wouldn't be a BCN post without a bad cap:



    3 KZJ's, one blown. And it had to be a size/voltage/value combo I don't happen to have in my stash... and since I have to order stuff anyway, I'm not gonna hack in an 8mm.

    Regarding the missing cable, the connectors are:





    The PSU is a beast:





    Score?

    Questions:

    1. I'll probably just get a replacement heatsink clamp... but if you know of any better compatible coolers, say so.

    2. I'll probably do a fresh install of the OS (rather than clone my old install) and merge the specifically tweaked config files. Any suggestions on a headless (no GUI) linux distro? I was on Debian and it ran pretty well... I mostly use arch but IMHO that's too bleeding edge for this (too many updates).
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  • Topcat
    The Boss Stooge
    • Oct 2003
    • 16958
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    #2
    Re: Dell Poweredge score

    not bad for 20 bones!
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    • ratdude747
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      • Nov 2008
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      #3
      Re: Dell Poweredge score

      Yeah, once I get caps (check your PM) and the CPU latch (and BBU batt) It will be trucking.

      Best part is it may become free since it will become my parents print and file server... I know, she's overkill x100... I could almost web host on the thing. Nah, If I wanted to do that I'd get out my two K8W's in the junker pile ("unusuable" AGP bridges of doom).
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      • ratdude747
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        • Nov 2008
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        #4
        Re: Dell Poweredge score

        The I2C cable is unobtanium... as it seems the SAS option was a bit rare.

        It's a longer one of these:

        http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Dell...item4d17cbb618

        Which I will buy and splice extensions on since NOBODY has the stock version of. The backplane's connector shell was almost completely ripped off the pins when I got it, so I bet the old cable was ripped and tossed.

        Oddly enough I also found a 100% unused Dell audio to HDA cable... may be good to have if for whatever reason I put a HDA compatible card in a dell.
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        • ratdude747
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          • Nov 2008
          • 17136
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          #5
          Re: Dell Poweredge score

          Ended up ordering this:

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/131352503791...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

          which happens to have the also unobtainium heatsink mounts and I2C cable. The extra CPU upgrade and a spare board is icing on the cake.
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          • Compgeke
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            • Feb 2014
            • 524
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            #6
            Re: Dell Poweredge score

            Looks a lot like you have a PERC 5/i. Quite a nice card for how cheap they are, I have one here and a PERC 6/i in my Poweredge 2950.

            One nice thing is the ram is upgradable and you might be able to flash LSI firmware to it, people seem to argue on whether it works. If you ever end up pulling it out of the system you can also get adapters to use it without a backplane (SATA breakout cable).

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            • ratdude747
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              • Nov 2008
              • 17136
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              #7
              Re: Dell Poweredge score

              ^Nah, I'll just up the RAM and see if I can flash the firmware.

              From what I can tell SAS wasn't an option on the 830; this one is a hodge podge of two different systems (hence why the hotswap module has chassis mount). It's possible that that's why i couldn't obtain the correct cable either. Looks like I'll have to make my own cable and hope it works.
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              • ratdude747
                Black Sheep
                • Nov 2008
                • 17136
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Dell Poweredge score

                Well Shit. Potential bad news about the RAID Card

                From what I'm reading since it's a dell card linux may not be compatible... hopefully it is w/o a bucnh of firmware hacking bull pucky (it's not even SAS per se). Also, the RAM is not upgradeable; even if it accepts an upgrade it will only use the 256MB it was designed for.

                Worst case I whack in my 3ware 9500 and make a SATA adapter for the backplane power cable (and ditch the backplane all together).
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                • stj
                  Great Sage 齊天大聖
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 31090
                  • Albion

                  #9
                  Re: Dell Poweredge score

                  change the firmware on the card with uniflash.

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                  • blasterboomer
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 135
                    • United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Re: Dell Poweredge score

                    I got a poweredge 1950 off ebay for £80 with 2 quad core xeons, 4gb ddr2, both psus... added 6gb extra ram to it for a total of 10GB installed 2 1tb sata drives and now use it as a webserver... I need more ram though, was hoping to get atleast 2 8gb sticks for it

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                    • Compgeke
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                      • Feb 2014
                      • 524
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                      #11
                      Re: Dell Poweredge score

                      Originally posted by ratdude747
                      From what I'm reading since it's a dell card linux may not be compatible...
                      Unless it's a weird one I've used both a Perc 5/i and 6/i under Linux and never had issues. Which specific card is this one anyways?

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                      • ratdude747
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                        • Nov 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: Dell Poweredge score

                        Originally posted by Compgeke
                        Unless it's a weird one I've used both a Perc 5/i and 6/i under Linux and never had issues. Which specific card is this one anyways?
                        perc 5/i.

                        If it works, then sweet... this will be a kickass build then.

                        In a trade for the server, I get from my parents $145 in Black Friday Harbor Freight stuff: Flux core welder, Auto-adjust helmet, and a 40 pack of shop towels (although I think that has more to do with that my mom doesn't want to wash my dirty ones ).
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                        • ratdude747
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                          #13
                          Re: Dell Poweredge score

                          Board #2 came in yesterday

                          Oddly the caps in question were NOT KZJ's... but 3 470uf 16V;s WERE... and on top of that week 50 2005 HM's (those OK?)
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                          • Topcat
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                            • Oct 2003
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                            #14
                            Re: Dell Poweredge score

                            Originally posted by ratdude747
                            week 50 2005 HM's (those OK?)
                            Yes, they will be fine.
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                            • ratdude747
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                              ^thought so, since it was that late in the year.
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                              • RJARRRPCGP
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                                • Jul 2004
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                                #16
                                Re: Dell Poweredge score

                                Originally posted by Topcat
                                not bad for 20 bones!
                                I doubt I'm going find a deal like that at WinCycle.
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                                • ratdude747
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Dell Poweredge score

                                  Although it's taking another ~$40 to get it to running condition (and some I2C wire mods). Still, she'll be a nice one... First one to have hotswap drives even.
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                                  • ratdude747
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Dell Poweredge score

                                    Built it up last night, man it is bitchy about RAM.

                                    Only likes 1 Rank ECC DDR2, beeps at 2 rank or non-ecc.

                                    and one of the two included modules was DEAD... looks like i'm buying more RAM. Fucker.
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                                    • ratdude747
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                                      • Nov 2008
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                                      Re: Dell Poweredge score

                                      Ordered 4 of these:

                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/1gb-PC2-3200...item4d28999d35

                                      Hopefully that fixes it... and once again I have 8GB of ECC 2 rank RAM that I can't do shit with.
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                                      • RJARRRPCGP
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                                        #20
                                        Re: Dell Poweredge score

                                        Originally posted by ratdude747
                                        Built it up last night, man it is bitchy about RAM.

                                        Only likes 1 Rank ECC DDR2, beeps at 2 rank or non-ecc.

                                        and one of the two included modules was DEAD... looks like i'm buying more RAM. Fucker.
                                        Possibly the same type of issue my Dell Inspiron 530S has, where the slots have trouble keeping the RAM modules aligned.
                                        (Simply moving the case can cause that issue. Don't you hate that?!)
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