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    #61
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    The 7 column is correct. None of the others are.

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      #62
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      TELVM: They where not my words, I just quoted in italic the website you linked to.
      "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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        #63
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        It says 'by Per Hansson': http://www.techspot.com/article/616-adobe-flash-fail/

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          #64
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          Haha, yes damn, this was before my morning coffee, ok?
          I did not read properly, I thought you had quoted what was printed by Neowin...

          My point was that I think it's a bit sensationalist by Secunia to call Windows 8 "The most vulnerable Windows OS"
          I mean following their logic using IE6 on XP would be "more secure" then?

          But of course I think it boggles the mind that MS bundles one of the most vulnerable applications in existence with their OS at all.
          Especially so after Apple decided to drop Flash all together and they seem to be doing quite well after that decision!

          And ironically it can't even be uninstalled in Windows 8 at all.
          I looked but all methods revolved around "frankenstein" ways of doing it which in the end either caused problems.
          Or Flash would simply be reinstalled on the next day that Adobe released a patch for it via Windows Update...
          "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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            #65
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            I wholly agree morning coffee is sine qua non for straight CPU processing . Also on the Flash updater being a pile of manure.

            The impossibility to remove unbearable crap is a constant in Tiles 8.

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              #66
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              So who are the other 7 people that voted for XP besides me? Judging from this thread, it seems like I am the only one. But I don't mind. XP still does everything I want it to. I doubt EOL will affect me that much. I've stopped updating pretty much after XP SP2. I do have only a handful of specific updates I apply (one of them being that patch against the DownAdUp worm).
              Perhaps I should change my user name to XP4EVER .

              Originally posted by Topcat View Post
              If you want it in XP Pro or Win7 (pro and higher), you have to manually turn it on. Here's how:

              1. Go to Administrative Tools and click Local Security Policy.

              2. In the Local Security Policy editor expand Local Policies and click Security Options.
              In the right pane search and open Interactive logon: Do not require CTRL+ALT+DEL and choose Disable. Hit OK, and there ya go.
              Sweet! Thank you for this info.

              I always wondered how to do it, but it wasn't one of those items where I absolutely needed it, so I never really researched it. A few years back, I somehow enabled this option on my school laptop by accident after I configured XP. At first, I didn't really care for it, but now I really like it. Definitely nice to have for a laptop. On my desktops, though, I still prefer the standard XP login (except I also usually set them up as auto-login). But for a laptop or workstation, the 3-finger login just looks more professional.

              Originally posted by Topcat View Post
              If you feed Vista enough memory and know how to denut it, Vista really isn't that bad.
              Agreed.
              I actually got the 32-bit version of Vista to behave quite nicely on 1 GB of RAM. Idle memory usage was in the 300 MB range IIRC - quite acceptable IMO.

              Originally posted by Topcat
              I still run office 2003....
              lol, me too. I just love the simplicity of it.
              I wonder when M$ will remove the .DOC file compatibility on their newer version of Word to force everyone to change away from 2003.

              Originally posted by Dan81
              Let's hope they bring back... Aero.
              Ugh.
              I hate Aero with a passion. It just a resource-wasting hog. XP classic all the way with all visual (de)fects disabled



              Here's another one:
              https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...9&d=1338868550
              I have a folder full of these. Customized with various colors and background. But the one I almost always use is the first dark-gray one with black and white. The color ones I usually use only when I make a second profile only meant to be used for remote desktop (that way I can automatically differentiate between my remote desktop session and my own session without even thinking about it).
              Last edited by momaka; 03-01-2014, 07:17 PM.

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                #67
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                Originally posted by momaka View Post
                I always wondered how to do it, but it wasn't one of those items where I absolutely needed it, so I never really researched it. A few years back, I somehow enabled this option on my school laptop by accident after I configured XP. At first, I didn't really care for it, but now I really like it. Definitely nice to have for a laptop. On my desktops, though, I still prefer the standard XP login (except I also usually set them up as auto-login). But for a laptop or workstation, the 3-finger login just looks more professional.
                I've spent too much time in data centers and dealing with confidential data. I leave nothing logged on when I'm not around....even if theres nothing crucial on it....old habit I guess....but better safe than sorry. I'm getting better though, I do leave USB enabled in the BIOS now, and I no longer put BIOS passwords on systems.
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                  #68
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                  Originally posted by momaka View Post
                  Ugh.
                  I hate Aero with a passion. It just a resource-wasting hog. XP classic all the way with all visual (de)fects disabled
                  Aero is the only reason 7 is any better than XP (other than the whole EOL thing). If you're not gonna use aero, then there's no point in going to 7 IMO.
                  I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

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                    #69
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                    Still use XP Pro SP3 on a HP W8000 and it does everything I need to do.

                    Maybe thats not so much, but I do websites and addicted to FPS T2 on Branzone.com with 300 ping from here.

                    Forgotten more about computers than I will ever remember, except bought DOS Source full of bugs from Bill in his garage and he aint getting the last $70k payment for it, as had to spend it on two smarter local SW engineers to fix it. Still have it around somewhere.

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                      #70
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                      Originally posted by c_hegge View Post
                      Aero is the only reason 7 is any better than XP (other than the whole EOL thing). If you're not gonna use aero, then there's no point in going to 7 IMO.
                      I don't use Aero on S2K8 on my main rig, but I do on the laptops I have it on....but those aren't used for anything productive. Those are just 'lay in bed and web browse' machines.
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                        #71
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                        Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                        I don't use Aero on S2K8 on my main rig, but I do on the laptops I have it on....but those aren't used for anything productive. Those are just 'lay in bed and web browse' machines.
                        I use aero on all of my 7 installs. it really comes in handy, especially window dragging/snapping behavior (which is cloned in gnome 3, which I use on my arch linux installs). On my main rigs, it really helps as it makes moving windows between screens easier (just drag and snap).
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                          #72
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                          I don't use Aero. I use the Windows Classic theme with no animations and no visual effects.

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                            #73
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                            Windows 7 on my main PC's and laptop, Windows 8.1 at work (BOOOOO), XP on my seedbox, OpenBSD for router/firewall

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                              #74
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                              Originally posted by Pentium4 View Post
                              Windows 8.1 at work (BOOOOO)
                              What sane employer puts that trash on a productivity machine?! I could see it on a toddler's spell & learn, but on a real computer? Really?!
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                                #75
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                                Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                                What sane employer puts that trash on a productivity machine?! I could see it on a toddler's spell & learn, but on a real computer? Really?!
                                That's exactly what I said! But my boss said he wanted me to learn it well so when customers call in to ask stupid questions about Windows 8 (And oh boy they do) I will know what to do, how to walk them through something, etc. I suggested just making a windows 8 virtual machine on the server, but oh well.

                                What's ridiculous, is the customers that insist on buying Windows 8 just because it's the newest operating system by Microsoft, so it must be "The best" Usually, they do not listen to my "I highly recommend you avoid it" statements.

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                                  #76
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                                  I voted Mac OSX reason being I spend most of my free time at home browsing the web using Mac. After working on Windoze boxes all day long its nice to have a change, I also really like Mint Linux. But none of the above Oses bother me my work PC has Vista 64bit maxes everything at 5.9 it also boots XP and Lion on the same machine. In regards to the mac I miss the aqua theme that was retired in snow leopard I think the new look is more flat and boring much like 8 has a bland interface vs aero.
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                                    #77
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                                    Originally posted by Pentium4 View Post
                                    That's exactly what I said! But my boss said he wanted me to learn it well so when customers call in to ask stupid questions about Windows 8 (And oh boy they do) I will know what to do, how to walk them through something, etc. I suggested just making a windows 8 virtual machine on the server, but oh well.

                                    What's ridiculous, is the customers that insist on buying Windows 8 just because it's the newest operating system by Microsoft, so it must be "The best" Usually, they do not listen to my "I highly recommend you avoid it" statements.
                                    My boss has windows hate on his machine (again, simply so he can learn its ins and outs to fix windows hate PCs), but 8 still isn't overly common, and most customers will happily listen to reason once they see what windows 8 is like (although most are so computer illiterate around here that you could probably tell them that a higher number is always better and that they should get Windows 2000)

                                    The thing is though, if you can find your way around, 8 is fast and stable, unlike Vista or ME.
                                    Last edited by c_hegge; 03-05-2014, 10:57 PM.
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                                    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                                      #78
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                                      Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                                      .... I could see it on a toddler's spell & learn, but on a real computer? ...

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                                        #79
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                                        Originally posted by Pentium4 View Post
                                        What's ridiculous, is the customers that insist on buying Windows 8 just because it's the newest operating system by Microsoft, so it must be "The best"
                                        Yep, I've heard that one by the dosens too . 99% of college kids fall in that category. No point in explaining to them, though. Even many of the computer-literate think the newest is the best.

                                        Originally posted by c_hegge
                                        If you're not gonna use aero, then there's no point in going to 7 IMO.
                                        Which is why I haven't, either

                                        Originally posted by ratdude747
                                        I use aero on all of my 7 installs. it really comes in handy...
                                        How? That thing is designed to drop productivity. Things that were simple are now at least 10x more complex or take more time than they did before. Don't get me "Started" (especially with that Windows 8 crap, pun intended). I could write a book.

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                                          #80
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                                          Se7en has its faults but I agree with this guy:

                                          "... Windows 7 ... may be historically important as the last vaguely sane version of Windows ..."
                                          http://toastytech.com/guis/guitimeline4.html


                                          ^ Worth a laugh.

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