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  • momaka
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    • May 2008
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    #221
    Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

    Originally posted by c_hegge
    Nothing works with IE6 anymore for me. Google is all it takes to make it crash.
    Badcaps.net has always worked gread with IE6. I can open many many windows and still be using.. oh... about 200 MB of RAM (unless someone has uploaded gigantic inline images over 5 MP).
    ... which is one of the many reasons I like this forum so much: it doesn't matter what hardware and software you have... almost anything that can connect to the internet will work with BCN.

    YouTube semi-works with IE6. Plays video fine, but searching, posting, viewing related videos, and displaying comments do not work at all - but I don't care about these most of the time anyways. Once I find the video I want to watch in FF or Opera, I then pop a IE6 window and play it there. Reason being is that IE6 is very efficient with the memory. Useful when using my slightly more ancient computers.

    Yahoo! mail works great, but only sometimes. Sometimes it won't load at all ("Page cannot be displayed" errors) and sometimes I get other useless warning messages that tend to annoy me. When it works, though, it's great - I get a HTML version of Yahoo that rusn lightning fast.


    Originally posted by TELVM
    Unless there is sadomasochism involved I'd max it up of RAM before the hard drive melts from the trashing.
    HDD doesn't trash unless I land myself in a thread with 10+ inline images that are over 2xxx by 2xxx resolution. Viewing BCN and listening to music through YouTube, I'm usually right near the max at about 300-350 MB of RAM used.

    And no, I can't max it out. Don't know what HP did in their infinite wisdom, but if I do max out the RAM to (a whopping) 512 MB, then I must loose ACPI capability .
    Last edited by momaka; 01-25-2014, 02:19 PM.

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    • kc8adu
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      • Nov 2003
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      #222
      Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

      no flash crap to muck things up.i suspect flash/java is the cause of most old browser problems.
      Originally posted by momaka
      Badcaps.net has always worked gread with IE6. I can open many many windows and still be using.. oh... about 200 MB of RAM (unless someone has uploaded gigantic inline images over 5 MP).
      ... which is one of the many reasons I like this forum so much: it doesn't matter what hardware and software you have... almost anything that can connect to the internet will work with BCN.

      YouTube semi-works with IE6. Plays video fine, but searching, posting, viewing related videos, and displaying comments do not work at all - but I don't care about these most of the time anyways. Once I find the video I want to watch in FF or Opera, I then pop a IE6 window and play it there. Reason being is that IE6 is very efficient with the memory. Useful when using my slightly more ancient computers.

      Yahoo! mail works great, but only sometimes. Sometimes it won't load at all ("Page cannot be displayed" errors) and sometimes I get other useless warning messages that tend to annoy me. When it works, though, it's great - I get a HTML version of Yahoo that rusn lightning fast.



      HDD doesn't trash unless I land myself in a thread with 10+ inline images that are over 2xxx by 2xxx resolution. Viewing BCN and listening to music through YouTube, I'm usually right near the max at about 300-350 MB of RAM used.

      And no, I can't max it out. Don't know what HP did in their infinite wisdom, but if I do max out the RAM to (a whopping) 512 MB, then I must loose ACPI capability .

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      • japlytic
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        • Oct 2005
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        • Australia

        #223
        Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

        One other thing I recently discovered is the issue of arcade machines running XP which have a network connection.
        My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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        • RJARRRPCGP
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          #224
          Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

          Originally posted by Kiriakos GR
          There is a huge quantity of hypocrisy behind that group which called as big motion picture companies and big record companies.
          They are tremendously greedy for money, they get the second place after the bankers.

          .
          I fixed that for you.
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          • c_hegge
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            • Sep 2009
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            #225
            Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

            Originally posted by momaka
            YouTube semi-works with IE6. Plays video fine, but searching, posting, viewing related videos, and displaying comments do not work at all - but I don't care about these most of the time anyways. Once I find the video I want to watch in FF or Opera, I then pop a IE6 window and play it there. Reason being is that IE6 is very efficient with the memory. Useful when using my slightly more ancient computers.

            Yahoo! mail works great, but only sometimes. Sometimes it won't load at all ("Page cannot be displayed" errors) and sometimes I get other useless warning messages that tend to annoy me. When it works, though, it's great - I get a HTML version of Yahoo that runs lightning fast.
            That's unacceptable for me. A browser must be able to display everything on the web every time I ask for it, otherwise, I won't even consider it.
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            • momaka
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              • May 2008
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              #226
              Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

              Originally posted by kc8adu
              no flash crap to muck things up.i suspect flash/java is the cause of most old browser problems.

              Pretty much.

              Originally posted by c_hegge
              That's unacceptable for me. A browser must be able to display everything on the web every time I ask for it, otherwise, I won't even consider it.
              Good luck finding that browser. They all have issues with one thing or another. I keep a selection of everything now, just in case .

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              • c_hegge
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                • Sep 2009
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                #227
                Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                ^
                Firefox. The latest versions always work perfectly every time for me.
                I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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                • goontron
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                  #228
                  Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                  looks like there will still be virus definition updates until 2015
                  http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/vie...p?f=61&t=30370
                  Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

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                  You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

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                  • Topcat
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                    #229
                    Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                    I extended the lifespan of XP on my office machine by tossing Server 2003 R2 on it......supported till July 2015....made good use of some free VLK's.
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                    • goontron
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                      #230
                      Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                      Originally posted by Topcat
                      I extended the lifespan of XP on my office machine by tossing Server 2003 R2 on it......supported till July 2015....made good use of some free VLK's.
                      good idea, whats the difference besides XP has a 10 user limit.
                      Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                      "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                      Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                      You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                      Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                      Follow the white rabbit.

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                      • ratdude747
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                        #231
                        Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                        Originally posted by goontron
                        good idea, whats the difference besides XP has a 10 user limit.
                        Some 2003 x32 versions allow 8GB of RAM...
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                        • goontron
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                          #232
                          Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                          Originally posted by ratdude747
                          Some 2003 x32 versions allow 8GB of RAM...
                          oh ok. wait! M$ limits the amount of ram you can have?!?
                          Things I've fixed: anything from semis to crappy Chinese $2 radios, and now an IoT Dildo....

                          "Dude, this is Wyoming, i hopped on and sent 'er. No fucking around." -- Me

                          Excuse me while i do something dangerous


                          You must have a sad, sad boring life if you hate on people harmlessly enjoying life with an animal costume.

                          Sometimes you need to break shit to fix it.... Thats why my lawnmower doesn't have a deadman switch or engine brake anymore

                          Follow the white rabbit.

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                          • Topcat
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                            #233
                            Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                            Originally posted by ratdude747
                            Some 2003 x32 versions allow 8GB of RAM...
                            tangent
                            I tried server 2008 on my x5dal xeon system today (doesn't support 64). It has 4GB of ram in it, S2K8 sees it all, whereas XP only saw 3....
                            /tangent
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                            • Topcat
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                              #234
                              Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                              Originally posted by goontron
                              good idea, whats the difference besides XP has a 10 user limit.
                              Basically nothing. Same code base, it just of course has server applications on it, such as IIS, domain controlling/AD, etc..... It is very tweakable for a desktop....also if you're experimenting with web design, its nice having IIS/web server @ localhost!!
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                              • ratdude747
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                                #235
                                Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                                Originally posted by Topcat
                                tangent
                                I tried server 2008 on my x5dal xeon system today (doesn't support 64). It has 4GB of ram in it, S2K8 sees it all, whereas XP only saw 3....
                                /tangent
                                tangent

                                you stilll run one of those too?

                                mine has 8gb /trumped /tangent
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                                • Topcat
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                                  #236
                                  Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                                  Originally posted by ratdude747
                                  tangent

                                  you stilll run one of those too?

                                  mine has 8gb /trumped /tangent
                                  resume tangent
                                  Yea, I have one left, I use it for experiments, just like this. I have another 4gb of ram, thanks for the idea!!
                                  /resuming tangent
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                                  • TELVM
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                                    #237
                                    Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                                    Originally posted by goontron
                                    oh ok. wait! M$ limits the amount of ram you can have?!?
                                    From XP SP2 onwards (XP SP1 was not limited) all 32bit client Windows are artificially capped to ~3.25GB max usable RAM, 'courtesy' of some code in the kernel ntkrlnpa.exe .

                                    Interesting reading on the subject



                                    Originally posted by momaka
                                    ... And no, I can't max it out. Don't know what HP did in their infinite wisdom, but if I do max out the RAM to (a whopping) 512 MB, then I must loose ACPI capability .
                                    That's a pity, I'd suggest swapping hardware to something that allows at least 1GB of RAM. Then create a small ramdisk (125~250MB) and install portable Firefox/PaleMoon entirely in the ramdisk. This provides a lightning quick browsing experience (RAM is an order of magnitude faster than any SSD/HDD drive).
                                    Last edited by TELVM; 01-29-2014, 10:15 PM.

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                                    • ratdude747
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                                      #238
                                      Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                                      Originally posted by Topcat
                                      resume tangent
                                      Yea, I have one left, I use it for experiments, just like this. I have another 4gb of ram, thanks for the idea!!
                                      /resuming tangent
                                      epic tangent assiest

                                      Yeah, I wanted the W7 style aero, but w7 has the limit for x32 too... I PAE RAMdisked (via the gavotte tool and a registry mod) it to access the upper 4.8GB. I'll say, for x32, it kicks ass (but I maxed it out in nearly every way possible). Even with a newer system in use, I still run it for odd stuff and a spare.

                                      /epic tangent assist
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                                      • TELVM
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                                        #239
                                        Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                                        Originally posted by ratdude747
                                        ... but w7 has the limit for x32 too..


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                                        • domas
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                                          #240
                                          Re: Windows XP End of Life Approaching

                                          are those hacked somehow?

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