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  • Lonnie
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    • Dec 2006
    • 10

    #1

    Play streaming audio on home stereo

    Anyone doing this? What hardware are you using? I was looking at the wireless stuff from Radio Shack. Just wondering what your experiences were.

    BTW, what is the voltage at the PC speaker connection?
  • willawake
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    • Nov 2003
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    #2
    Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

    could try
    http://www.icecast.org/
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    • willawake
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      • Nov 2003
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      #3
      Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

      hmm i see what you mean. I would prefer to do that streaming from one pc to the other which is connected to the stereo. preferably connected with lan cables not wireless.

      there are quite a few solutions from the various manufacturers (d-link, linksys, logitech, creative, apple) but i can imagine that they would be not perfect.
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      • Lonnie
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        • Dec 2006
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        #4
        Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

        If the PC speaker connection was line voltage I could just use RCA cable into an Aux connection. If it's less I'll need a preamp, which most newer receivers don't have. This would be the simplest and least expensive solution.

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        • willawake
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          • Nov 2003
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          #5
          Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

          what receiver is it anyway?

          the best solution would be if your receiver has s/pdif input. that would be a nice solution then connected to a soundcard with s/pdif out, the DAC inside the receiver would be decoding the digital signal from the computer to analog sound. This would avoid using possibly low quality soundcard dacs and also avoiding any interference to the analog sound caused by the computer.
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          • Lonnie
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            • Dec 2006
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            #6
            Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

            It's a Harman/Kardon AVR 500, I'll have to dig out the manual.

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            • willawake
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              • Nov 2003
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              #7
              Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

              ooh its a nice one. yes it does have both optical and also coaxial s/pdif inputs so you could use either depending on which you have on your board or soundcard.

              i believe it should work. how far away from the computer is it?
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              • Lonnie
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                • Dec 2006
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                #8
                Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                15ft as the crow flys. 35ft to route cable around the room.

                Now that I looked op the definition of s/pdif I knew I had the inputs, duh..
                Last edited by Lonnie; 01-09-2007, 09:10 AM.

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                • Lonnie
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 10

                  #9
                  Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                  Now for some more dumb questions from a computer illiterate. I don't see s/pdif connections on the rear of my new Dell Dimension E-310. Do I need a better sound card?

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                  • willawake
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                    • Nov 2003
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                    #10
                    Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                    35ft = 10m thats kinda on the limits....

                    yeah you would need a new soundcard then
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                    • Lonnie
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                      • Dec 2006
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                      #11
                      Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                      Thanks for all the help and info...

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                      • willawake
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                        • Nov 2003
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                        #12
                        Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                        for soundcards i like the http://www.m-audio.com/ ones
                        i have the audiophile 192 and the audiophile 2496
                        but any card with the via envy24 chipset or similar is nice (also good dac chips if you are using the analog outs).

                        i will check for you also the voltage on the soundcard line outs.
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                        • Per Hansson
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                          • Jul 2005
                          • 5895
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                          #13
                          Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                          With Optical you can go about 30m without problems

                          With Coaxial it's not advisable to go beyond 10m, too much signal loss

                          Analog sound I don't know, but you get the added problem of the cables acting like antennas and picking up noise along the way...
                          "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                          • WNG
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 354

                            #14
                            Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                            line out from most soundcards work fine with RCA inputs of receivers.
                            Some cards have a bit higher power outputs, so trim it with the PC before it enters the receiver.

                            I listen to streamed music (DI.FM) on my receivers w/o trouble. I don't have the cabling issues you do though because I have a dedicated PC for the entertainment system.
                            For the computer room, 4 PCs are connected to a receiver via all its line inputs, and power a pair of sat/sub speakers.

                            For such analog runs, it's best to keep it within 3 meters.
                            “We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.
                            We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything, with nothing.”

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                            • Per Hansson
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                              • Jul 2005
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                              #15
                              Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                              and also FYI, if you decide to go digital note that with most soundcards you will only get Stereo if you go Digital, because you are still not sending an encoded Dolby Digital or DTS signal so the receiver can't send it to any specific speakers... (unless you are actually listening to encoded material like a DVD or other AC3 material)

                              There are soundcards with Dolby Digital Live encoding tho, the Auzentech X-Meridian and other based off the C Media CMI8788 chipset for example...
                              "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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                              • willawake
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                                • Nov 2003
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                                #16
                                Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                                actually with the m-audio cards and probably quite a few other cards you are supposed to be able to pass the multichannel sound through the digital out even though the card is not capable of actually playing it.

                                the 2496 here
                                http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=361112
                                notes :

                                S/PDIF digital I/O with 2-channel PCM
                                digital I/O supports surround-encoded AC-3 and DTS pass-through

                                the revolution 7.1 does that and plays it
                                http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=123301

                                the cheapest envy chipset card is the chaintech
                                http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=292003
                                which actually has an optical out unlike the m-audio cards
                                dunno if it does the pass-through though.....

                                i use one of these to convert to optical when i need
                                http://www.core-sound.com/co2/1.php
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                                • gonzo0815
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 1600

                                  #17
                                  Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                                  Well, i just solder some optical transmitter & jackets in on of the outputs. This box is probably not more ( plus some 5v regulator and if you want good signals a logic ic to refresh the singal edges). All in al it is worth abouth $5 plus the case. Most motherboards feature an digital out header today. There is all you need, even the 5v supply. Only adding the Transmitter. Digital receivers are usually prepared for an optical o/p, thus you only have to solder the parts in.

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                                  • Per Hansson
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                                    • Jul 2005
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Play streaming audio on home stereo

                                    Most cards does pass through, that was what I meant in my previous post... You either have to send a pre-encoded signal (with S/PDIF pass through)

                                    Or you have to encode it yourself (and send via S/PDIF) (either on the fly with cards that support it or offline and view later)

                                    To get surround sound (5.1 or whatever) using analog you have to decode the sound first, and send it through the analog cables... There are many solutions for this, some soundcards has it (hardware decode function) most software DVD players (but you usually need the most expensive version) and the free AC3 Filter on sourceforge :P
                                    "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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