Pentium's Server

**pentium** · 12-30-2006, 08:04 PM

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That can be done.

I omitted the parts that will be taken out of use.
Those being everything IDE related (the new board has no IDE), the motherboard obviously, and the video card which is built-in on the new board.

**Topcat** · 12-30-2006, 10:06 PM

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<-- is a windows brat.

Windows can be just as fast as *nix if configured right. Win2k on a machine sub-300MHz would tend to get a little choppy, as would linux for that matter. lack of horsepower will kill ANY operating system. The biggest thing you need to watch for on a win server is security, windows just has too many security breeches, so make sure you keep it updated and firewalled (especially if it has a live IP). Apache for win32+win2k Pro = very nice web server without IIS, and of course apache's VHOST support if you run multiple sites off one IP. Typing commands died for me with DOS, I don't want to do it anymore. Console admin on windows isnt hard either if you really want to type commands, but I found that remote desktop is a very nice thing.

Both Win and *nix have their strong points and weaknesses, it really comes down to what's the most versatile solution for your partiicular scenario, and what OS you're most comfortable with.

**pentium** · 12-30-2006, 10:18 PM

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Windows can be just as fast as *nix if configured right

Exactly!

Win2k on a machine sub-300MHz would tend to get a little choppy,

I have had xp run pretty well on a 233, and it only had 64 mb ram.

Typing commands died for me with DOS, I don't want to do it anymore

I'm fine with dos, *nix command line is still scary for me.

it really comes down to what's the most versatile solution for your partiicular scenario, and what OS you're most comfortable with.

In my case, Windows.

<-- is a windows brat.

**willawake** · 12-31-2006, 06:47 AM

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i agree regarding console commands. i have always wondered if linux admins go around with little notebooks. i certainly have forgotten the command by the time i next need to use it.

i have a new book called "linux phrasebook" its a highly recommended little reference for the bash shell.

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**Tom41** · 12-31-2006, 02:30 PM

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My Compaq Proliant server has been happily running Debian Linux since I got it. It has capability for up to 4 CPUs, but at the moment it only has a single Pentium Pro CPU in it - along with 256MB of RAM. I don't have the XWindow system installed, or indeed any GUI; I can administrate it fine from the console.

The 200MHz CPU performs very well for web serving, and the low speed is only noticeable when doing something CPU-intensive... such as running an SQL Delete query on a huge database while people are trying to browse the documents on the web server

**pentium** · 12-31-2006, 02:35 PM

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Linux does have the option of being installed without the GUI but then you are immediately subject to ommand hell.
I know those linux phrasebooks. For about $50 I can get the Unix version. It'a about three times as thick and a bible to some.

**willawake** · 12-31-2006, 02:51 PM

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not if you know the command to install webmin

**Topcat** · 12-31-2006, 02:59 PM

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^
Webmin is the Godsent for Linux IMO.... I have a mix of Windows and *nix servers. Another useful one if your server is a web server running multiple sites is ISP config. It's a lot like Cpanel, except its free.

**willawake** · 12-31-2006, 03:23 PM

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good info. these control panels are a godsend for webhosting. i have always used cpanel and once you use it in its full whm capability (actually its pretty goddamn daunting in the beginning) but it makes a task that would be incredibly difficult otherwise to be just a few clicks.

still webmin and cpanel still need some more work to make it more user friendly but they supply a not so steep learning curve for those who want to get into linux. lots of linux apps have hosted config pages, like cups (print server) for instance. if you have compatible printer its just a few clicks to get a print server running then some small config in samba

**pentium** · 01-02-2007, 02:23 PM

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Sutpid Notches!
Out of my entire 1 KG bag of Dimm's, not one fits the board!
By the looks of the notches (and the key I have for memory), I need 5V Buffered memory. I only have 3.3V unbuffered memory.

On the plus side, it fits the case I had for it...just barely, and my VRM modules fit too (no suprise there).

EDIT: Here is the type it really needs.
Shoot, my powermac uses the same stuff!

**Per Hansson** · 01-02-2007, 04:34 PM

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I might have some memory, if you're interested I'll look ;-)

**Rainbow** · 01-02-2007, 05:24 PM

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Looks like DIMMs in my Sun Ultra 5...

**pentium** · 01-02-2007, 05:46 PM

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Sometimes a server can be like a house with a shady past.
It may look good but it has lots of problems.

I was putting the cover on when I noticed that I couldn't make the cover fit.
Yes, the board is too big.
for the salke of safety, I googled up the board and came to several conclusions:

-the board and case are brand specific (it's not an AT or ATX form factor)
-The case is HUGE! (see pics)
-Finding support for the system is going to be real hard with a lack of info I can find
-This is a server that is right up there in quality. It took two years to design from scratch and can be compared to Alpha Servers of the same age.

I think I bit a little too much off this time.

To show what the origional case was, I managed to find these small images posted by a foriegn Computer store:

Thanks for the ram offerings but I might have some floating around here.
I'm gonna need more coffee.......

**Spacedye69** · 01-02-2007, 06:05 PM

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not as weird as the case on my IBM PS/2 80!!
LOOK!!!

**pentium** · 01-02-2007, 06:39 PM

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I actually saw one of those earlier this year at a local second hand store. I wish I bought it.

Transistors: 275,000

Is it really necessary to post how many transistors the CPU has?

**pentium** · 01-02-2007, 09:00 PM

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Okay, thanks guys for the help (and pointers).
It looks like I am going to have to find a case first before I even start going into software. I sure hope I can find one.

**dood** · 01-04-2007, 07:01 AM

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BTW- For the longest time I was running Win2k Server on a P133 w/ 128mb RAM. I think Pentiums server should be just fine for 2k serv.

Of course, all I did w/ my server was backups, a distributed.net pproxy, and DHCP. I never got into the whole active directory thing, since it was at home and there were only two users at the time

**Per Hansson** · 01-04-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by dood

BTW- For the longest time I was running Win2k Server on a P133 w/ 128mb RAM. I think Pentiums server should be just fine for 2k serv.

Of course, all I did w/ my server was backups, a distributed.net pproxy, and DHCP. I never got into the whole active directory thing, since it was at home and there were only two users at the time

Hehe, that is what I am running Win2K server on right now ;-)

It works pretty well as a WINS and caching DNS server... I also had it to monitor my big ass UPS but now the batteries in it are done and I haven't bought new ones yet...

**Spacedye69** · 01-04-2007, 04:31 PM

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I can't compete with you rich guys. I am running NT 4.0 Server.

**pentium** · 01-04-2007, 04:41 PM

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I can't compete with you rich guys. I am running NT 4.0 Server.

Me?....Rich?
I'm just lucky I can find this stuff at good prices.

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