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  • ionothanus
    New Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 6

    #1

    Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

    Just wondering if anyone has any tips for my friend...I know some here have had to fight manufacturers on other issues before, and this seems pretty dangerous to me. It also scares me, because I have one of these drives in my computer.

    Anyways, on with the story...

    My friend was having some intermittent bootup issues. At random, his BIOS would forget one or several of his four IDE drives, all of which worked perfectly fine with his old motherboard. He soon found the cause, however: his Seagate Barracuda ST340014A 40GB hard drive. He had come home, went to turn on his computer, and it shut itself off almost immediately. He opened the case, checked all of the connections, and started it again...and heard a bang and saw fire erupt from the bottom of his Seagate. The computer promptly turned itself off again, fortunately. One of the chips on the bottom of the drive had exploded (pictures to follow, when I get them).

    Now, I can understand and accept an issue like this. It happens - the drive was, after all, perfectly fine for the majority of its life before this. What bothers me is that he has phoned and emailed Seagate many times and the answer has been the same: because the drive is physically damaged, his warranty is void. He cannot get them to budge. In the face of potential lawsuits, these tech "support" personnel refuse to help my friend at all, when if his computer had not shut off the first time and he had walked away, he probably wouldn't have much of a house remaining. It also caused minor damage to the drive below it, possibly shortening the life of that drive and also possibly voiding its warranty, if Western Digital's policies are similar. This really disappoints me, because until this incident I was very happy with my Seagate drive, but I do not want my own, personal, hard-drive-shaped paperweight. It isn't even any good for that, because it smells bad.

    Would anyone have any suggestions for him, like how to get his drive replaced or a reputable manufacturer with reasonable warranty support for his next purchase? He's not looking for millions, all he wants is a new hard drive. He also probably couldn't afford a lawsuit, whether he would have grounds for one or not. I'll be helping him write a letter, but is there anything else we should do? Thanks in advance.
  • willawake
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    • Nov 2003
    • 8457
    • Greece

    #2
    Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

    ok so thats a 7200.7. yeah i would like some pics.

    well i have more than a few seagates running at work and home at the moment but whatever manufacturer you choose you may be unlucky to have a bad experience, personally i am done with WD but others have better experience.

    seagates stance on the issue is very poor....exploding/burnt chips is clearly a design defect or defective chip. certainly not something to void warranty. the only thing i guess your friend can do is to to keep pressing them and especially try to escalate the issue to a higher level, dont let them blow you off.

    personally i cant assist further cos i buy oem drives so i deal with my supplier only.
    capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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    • Shroomie
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      • Apr 2006
      • 356

      #3
      Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

      I bought an OEM drive, an 80 GB Seagate 2MB/PATA (link) last May. That drive failed in the more usual, click-thump fashion. I looked on Seagate's website and discovered that although the drive had been delivered to me protected by foam peanuts, those wouldn't be sufficient if I was to return the drive under warranty. I also discovered that newspaper, bubble wrap, and Oprah were also not sufficient to protect the drive. Instead, I would have to find not 1-inch, but 2-inch foam rubber (2-inch what?!) or an authorized SeaShell(tm) container. In my opinion, the 'Shells should be provided FOR FREE by Seagate. And I couldn't ship it UPS, because if it experienced G-forces higher than the drive was rated for in transit, that was my fault as well. (The UPS thing was a joke, but I didn't feel safe shipping it at all.) That fact, combined with the SOL consumer having to cover shipping, made me decide that I wasn't going to pay $20 to ship a $50 hard drive. My question to you is, has anyone successfully sent in a Seagate OEM drive under warranty and had it *gasp* approved?

      I'd suggest your friend give Seagate a hard time, take it as high up as possible until it gets resolved. If he doesn't want to, there's always Western Digital.
      You know there's something wrong when you open up a PSU and are glad to find Teapos.
      Why I don't buy cheap cases!

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      • kc8adu
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        • Nov 2003
        • 8832
        • U.S.A!

        #4
        Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

        i have sent drives under warrenty to seagate with severely burnt chips,chunks rattling around inside,and never had any problems.dont talk to anyone.instead check warrenty status and do the online rma.some of their phone support techs are good and some are morons.

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        • willawake
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          • Nov 2003
          • 8457
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

          SeaShell(tm) is equivalent to 2inch rubber.....lol...........
          capacitor lab yachtmati techmati

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          • tiresias
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Feb 2006
            • 489

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            Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

            Originally posted by ionothanus
            he has phoned and emailed Seagate many times and the answer has been the same: because the drive is physically damaged, his warranty is void. He cannot get them to budge.
            Bizarre stuff... I cannot think of a situation in which a failed drive is not physically damaged.

            I mean, it's a mechanical and electronic device, so physically damaged as opposed to what, insulted or psychologically abused?

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            • ionothanus
              New Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 6

              #7
              Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

              Thanks for all of your responses. He's going to try the online RMA path first, and if he has problems there then he'll start calling and writing. Pictures are attached, as promised.

              Originally posted by tiresias
              I mean, it's a mechanical and electronic device, so physically damaged as opposed to what, insulted or psychologically abused?
              That made my day (although Shroomie's Oprah crack helped ). What's interesting is that Seagate's warranty terms page clearly defines what damage counts and what doesn't, and (among many other things) spontaneous combustion isn't on that list.

              All a SeaShell(tm) appears to be is a clear, ribbed, hard plastic, drive-sized box. Just Google for a picture. Every Samsung drive I've bought (mobile and 3.5") has come in something similar, so since I have lots lying about I'm going to give him one for the shipping.

              And, since I don't like mass-boycotting simply based on one bad experience, this is simply what happened to him, and (as far as we know) neither your drive or mine are near death - it's just his lousy luck. As always, your mileage may vary. However, Seagate's support is a different story...

              Thanks again for all of your help, everyone. I'll try and keep you posted, if you like.

              P.S. - the first picture is his other drive, showing that there truly was fire, and the second picture is the clearest one I've got of the chip that exploded (circled). You can see the whole streak of discolouration.
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              Last edited by ionothanus; 06-30-2006, 10:27 PM. Reason: clarifying the posted pictures

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              • gonzo0815
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2006
                • 1600

                #8
                Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

                i only have some experience with wd and maxtor. Both manufakturer did not care about physicall defekts. They changed them without any issu. But ok, those packing and shipping policy is a little tough, but in Germany probably any store will give you the needed packing for free.
                And i think if you coud get manage to get an RNA (via the web formular) number, i am shure even seagate will return a refurbished or new hdd. Don`t care about support persons and that. They are mostly uninformed and or doing things they shouldn`t do to scare you to claime the warranty. HDD`s are that cheap that they calculate a lot of rma`s.

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                • kc8adu
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 8832
                  • U.S.A!

                  #9
                  Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

                  i have the 80gb version of the 7200.7 here and though there are a few differences its much the same board.
                  mine has the st "smooth" chip in that position on mine.
                  if you google it they are notorious for flaming out.
                  i have replaced a few to recover data stranded on a drive for a customer.

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                  • arneson
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1267

                    #10
                    Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

                    Originally posted by kc8adu
                    i have replaced a few to recover data stranded on a drive for a customer.
                    This is impressive, can you expound on the that, success? frmware? special tool?
                    Depending on what data was lost on this exploded drive, and the fact that it's common, makes it possible for recovery?
                    Jim

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                    • kc8adu
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 8832
                      • U.S.A!

                      #11
                      Re: Seagate Barracuda ST340014A - exploded

                      i have no problem doing smt rework.
                      and the folks i do recovery work for come in sweating bullets and dont care what i have to do or how much it costs.
                      i worked 9 hours lining up platters in a 3 platter drive to get the data.spindle motor failed and i had to transplant their stack into a otherwise good drive.its a bitch to get it just right.

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