P4 vs. AMD Dual core

[shovenose]

Need to make a choice, which would be better?
P4HT 3.06 w/533FSB, DDR RAM, Intel chipset
Athlon 64x2 4200+ 2.2GHz Dual Core, DDR2 RAM, Via Chipset

Which one will have better performance?
Better reliability?
Less power consumption?
Less heat creation?

[ratdude747]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

bests IMHO:

performance, heat, and power, athlon.

reliability, p4 (athlon if you get a nvidia based board).

[Scenic]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

depends what the A64 X2 actually is.
from the description, it should be a Socket AM2 one.
those were available as 89W, 65W and 35W TDP

check the model number (like "ADO4200IAA5DO") and search for it on http://www.cpu-world.com
if it's the 1st gen 89W one, take the P4 (less power consumption if it's a northwood P4).
If it's the more modern 65W version, take the AMD

reliability, p4 (athlon if you get a nvidia based board).

lol?
nvidia chipsets = trouble. always has been. 939/AM2 chipsets even more so than any other (older/newer).
I'm so glad nvidia stopped producing these junk chipsets alltogether..

[mariushm]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

the intel would suck power, the netburst architecture just sucks.

the athlon is better overall

[c_hegge]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

Yup, Athlon FTW. What board do you have with it? Make sure you add a chipset fan if it has an nVidia chipset.

[ratdude747]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

Yup, Athlon FTW. What board do you have with it? Make sure you add a chipset fan if it has an nVidia chipset.

he said it had a via chipset in post 1.

[shovenose]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

I was forced to use the AMD since the intel had driver problems. It would BSOD every time I tried installing the chipset driver. Probably doesn't supprt Windows Server 2003...

Anyway, I'm quite happy with the A64 server. I'm setting it up right now, with Windows Server 2008 64-bit.

I managed to fit the MSI K9MM-V with teh Athlong 64 into the tiny HP dx2000 microtower case - in fact the MSI board is smaller than the one that was in it...

A bit of a side note: HP can make a good motherboard, the mobo (which will end up in the next empty case I end up with) has mostly Rubycon caps, with a few Sanyos. Of course a few Lelon, Teapo, and 2 KZG, but Rubycon on the VCore, which is great and 4 DDR slots... Not a bad motherboard, except they ommitted the AGP slot which is retarded but anyway...lol AFAIK it's a Lite-On motherboard.

[shovenose]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2.2GHz Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core Processor ADA4200CUBOX
Uh oh... it's the crappy high-power one. I'll see if I've got a lower-power one... but

[Scenic]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

only the part number on the heatspreader will tell you for sure.
there are quite a few "X2 4200+"
http://www.cpu-world.com/cgi-bin/Ide...%2B&PROCESS=Go

[shovenose]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

I used Cpu-Z to identify Windsor core name...

[yyonline]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2.2GHz Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core Processor ADA4200CUBOX
Uh oh... it's the crappy high-power one. I'll see if I've got a lower-power one... but

Unless you're overclocking, just turn on "Cool n Quiet" in the BIOS and set XP to use "Minimal Power Management" power scheme to enable CPU throttling. This will reduce the power usage when it's idle. Vista/7 have throttling enabled by default. If you're using a different OS, I can't comment on how to enable throttling.

AM2 CPUs are oddly expensive on the used hardware market, so I'd just use what you have. Windsor core definitely beats just about any P4.

[shovenose]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

OK
BTW, since it's running SMP folding@home 24/7 Cool n Quiet is useles

[Uranium-235]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

the athlon 64

[Pentium4]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

For F@H, the Athlon. It has a huge advantage being a dual core. They'll both use a lot of power and run pretty hot. The 533FSB P4's were a lot worse than the 800 ones.

[Evil Lurker]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

Even the slowest dual core Athlon will flat out smoke the fastest socket 478 P4 any day if for no other reason than it has two physical cores.

Also the AM2 platform uses DDR2 ram (cheaper and faster than DDR) and has a PCIe (means you can slap a fast new graphics card on a 5 year old system).

Socket 478 is a dead platform IMO.

[shovenose]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

Even the slowest dual core Athlon will flat out smoke the fastest socket 478 P4 any day if for no other reason than it has two physical cores.

Also the AM2 platform uses DDR2 ram (cheaper and faster than DDR) and has a PCIe (means you can slap a fast new graphics card on a 5 year old system).

Socket 478 is a dead platform IMO.

AGP, not PCI-E on my motharboard:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K9MM-V.html

[c_hegge]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

Socket AM2 with no PCIE? VIA

[shovenose]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

Yu, it's Via. But no nVidia problems...

[PCBONEZ]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

[ratdude747]

Re: P4 vs. AMD Dual core

Socket AM2 with no PCIE? VIA

no, it was intentional in a good way

it was meant to be a way one could upgrade boards/cpus and still keep their old AGP card.

some early 775 boards did it too (sometimes also having both ddr and ddr2 slots)