emachine e725 freezes randomly

[RJARRRPCGP]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

Win98 still sucks for most serious intents and purposes. Heck, it even fails at surfing the 'net nowadays.

That's true if you don't use 98Lite!

98Lite removes a bunch of stuff that makes it vulnerable to malware and basically turns Windows 98 into a portable OS with basically only the kernel and app running.

Then afterwards, Windows 98 requires one more tweak with the networking settings, because, yes, it will be slow as heck, there's an issue with the default settings that causes broadband to crawl at 2 Mbit or less!

98Lite will work like a charm on Intel 845 boards and PIII boards!

After I got all the tweaks I needed, including from MSFN, the 98Lite'ed Windows 98 SE on the MSI 845E Max with a Northwood beats even Windows 2000 in benchmarks and is faster overall.

The only time I get errors is when the Northwood temp starts getting too high when I'm Prime95'ing it.

It starts getting finicky at 2.8 Ghz and I need a lot of cold air for Prime95 to pass.

[coolcurrent]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

thanks all, i finally gave this up.i just told the person to buy another laptop

[PCBONEZ]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

the laptop doesn't recognize any CD now. i will try it again after i assemble it.

You may have a bad drive or a defective cable [or connector] to it.
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Is the CD drive mounted in a caddy on that model?
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[PCBONEZ]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

Laptops usually use thermal pads.

Examples:
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[coolcurrent]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

It is known as
Thermal Compound
Thermal Grease
Thermal Paste

thanks

[coolcurrent]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

It's not unrelated.
You don't have enough RAM to run Win7 smoothly particularly after you start adding programs to it.
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You have the minimum requirement which just enough for Win7 to run without adding any[or many] other programs to it.
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Pretty much any 'resource happy' program [a bulky anti-virus for example] would be enough to cause your system to freeze.

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Try running the system from a live CD and see if it freezes with that.
If it doesn't the issue isn't hardware.
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the laptop doesn't recognize any CD now. i will try it again after i assemble it.

[joshnz]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

It is known as
Thermal Compound
Thermal Grease
Thermal Paste

[coolcurrent]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

i opened the laptop, the paste (whitish) on the processor seems to be dried up, what is it usually called, i need to get it and re-paste first.

the laptop is new and virtually have no dust clogging anywhere. thanks

[PCBONEZ]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

i don't understand, how does all these relates to emachines freezing

It's not unrelated.
You don't have enough RAM to run Win7 smoothly particularly after you start adding programs to it.
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You have the minimum requirement which just enough for Win7 to run without adding any[or many] other programs to it.
.
Pretty much any 'resource happy' program [a bulky anti-virus for example] would be enough to cause your system to freeze.

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Try running the system from a live CD and see if it freezes with that.
If it doesn't the issue isn't hardware.
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[joshnz]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

None of it does sadly a moderator should move those posts out.

as for your machine coolcurrent have you had any issues with this machine in the past like blue screens and resets?
Also go to start Control Panel then Administrative Tools then Event Viewer then windows logs then system and look for any errors regarding disk.

[coolcurrent]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

i don't understand, how does all these relates to emachines freezing

[PCBONEZ]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

Ever hear of when it works don't fix it?
Good plan when you run a business.
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[pfrcom]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

So obviously what they had last year didn't work and they went right out of business.
- It's a WANT, not a need.

Ever hear of a factor called growth ?

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

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I will avoid getting into such discussions in the future, because they don't change the systems i run in any way and just cause unneeded clutter.

[shadow]

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Yes this 32bit vs. 64bit discussion is interesting. However it is not the purpose of this thread.

[joshnz]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

mods could you clean this thread up and put the posts in a 32 vs 64 thread this guy coolcurrent may have already left because of the thread been taken over.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

Now that the train wreck is over....

coolcurrent, any updates?

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[ratdude747]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

RD I was specifically talking about device drivers.
Win7 does not support 32-bit drivers at all.
http://www.techsupportalert.com/cont...plications.htm

well, yeah, in the word of cpu's, 00000wow and 0wow are not the same. in 64 bit, ALL 64 bits must have a value. as floating bits are not defined nor defaulted. so ANYTHING 32 bit will not work without translating. windows IIRC will translate programs but not drivers, hence the issue.

what "legacy mode" in the cpu does is add the zeroes. but once you start the computer in a mode, it stays in that mode until reboot. so once you start 64, you have to always be 64.

also, since 7 is a hybred kernel, other things besides the OS may interact with drivers and need 64 bit capabilities

also, there may be bits that making 64 bit and using 64 bit instructions improved performance or functionality enough to warrant changing. but so much does not benefit enough to warrant that it rounds off to double . no big enough to make a large impact on memory usage, but enough to mess up drivers.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

RD I was specifically talking about device drivers.
Win7 64-bit does not support 32-bit drivers at all.
http://www.techsupportalert.com/cont...plications.htm

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Re: emachine e725 freezes randomly

If you have more than 4Gb it probably is idle most of the time.

Don't bet on it. Using virtual machines eats up a lot of RAM. But at least i don't have to worry 'bout no compatibility issues.

[For the average typical PC user I'd say 2Gb.]

This is true, sans VMWare i can do most of my stuff in 2GB (on my laptops). Though i DO feel the pagefile every once in a while with 2 gigs. 8GB on the main machine and pagefile turned off. I have never seen an "out of memory" message, but i did use up to 7.3GB once. Don't ask me what i was up to. Again, RAM is still cheaper than CPU power.