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  • ratdude747
    Black Sheep
    • Nov 2008
    • 17136
    • USA

    #1

    a random toner box...

    before:



    after:



    this is the ratdude747 cardboard-puter!

    It is an HP (trigem) lomita pIII tualie board mounted in a box.

    why? well, i noiced that the case it was in was porky but you had to use the 1/2 size psu... and i noticed how small the board is. it is a sub-mini atx, as it is only 2 rows of screws deep. it also is the exact depth of the box (so when the box is shut, the board goes nowhere). i thought that i could do better... so why not?

    first, specs:

    HP lomita mobo (micro-atx, 3 pci, 2 sdram, tualie PIII, built in video, audio, and LAN)
    pIII celeron tuali 1.3ghz
    512mb pc133 ram
    40gb HD
    hipro 200w mini PSU

    next, some pics:

    top:

    note the i had to use the gimp airbrush to hide my COA code... the front (now top) I/O and the 2 usb ports were from the old case.

    back:


    just the taped in I/O shield

    guts:



    notice the lack of optical and floppy... more on that later. if you look at the intake fan, you will notice how i used the extra p4 connection i had dangling... for some reason, after i got my finger stuck in the old fan, the secondary fan header has been dead... main fan is fine...

    the hard drive:

    the drive is side mounted using some old shorter standoffs. there are vents behind the drive in the side; they are the only non-psu exhaust vents, so when the box is closed, most of the outward airflow passes the drive. the vents:



    about the lack of removable storage- i was going to mount a short liteON drive in there... but there wasn't room no mater how i mounted it. what i am doing is i use the unused molex pigtail and a cable run from the unused mobo port to connect an internal drive externally... so when i am installing xp to it, the box is open and i have a drive sitting outside the case. this method has worked so far.

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  • weirdlookinguy
    Badcaps Legend
    • Sep 2007
    • 1638

    #2
    Re: a random toner box...

    Hahaha. I like it! Not really useful for much but looks like a fun way to kill an afternoon.

    If you could build it out of some thin wood or something similar, it might be interesting.

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    • backtrack
      Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 38

      #3
      Re: a random toner box...

      Yeah! A wooden chassis. A cardboard PC, This is too funny.

      EDIT- A way to go green!!
      Last edited by backtrack; 12-08-2010, 01:47 AM.
      they call, they telnet, I hangup, I laugh, I get hiccups and digital breakups.

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      • Toasty
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jul 2007
        • 4171

        #4
        Re: a random toner box...

        Ah-ha! The toner b*mber is revealed!
        veritas odium parit

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        • backtrack
          Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 38

          #5
          Re: a random toner box...

          Personally the first cardboard body that I ever saw that fitted almost perfectly.

          EDIT- I like how the back with the serial ports is center even.
          Last edited by backtrack; 12-08-2010, 02:07 AM.
          they call, they telnet, I hangup, I laugh, I get hiccups and digital breakups.

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          • toastygoodness
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Jul 2005
            • 813
            • United States

            #6
            Re: a random toner box...

            Originally posted by Toasty
            Ah-ha! The toner b*mber is revealed!
            lol that's what i thought at first....

            good work rd!

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            • smason
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 1652
              • Canada

              #7
              Re: a random toner box...

              Ghetto! Nice work.
              36 Monitors, 3 TVs, 4 Laptops, 1 motherboard, 1 Printer, 1 iMac, 2 hard drive docks and one IP Phone repaired so far....

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              • weirdlookinguy
                Badcaps Legend
                • Sep 2007
                • 1638

                #8
                Re: a random toner box...

                Check this out:
                http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/windowsxpbox/

                Lots of neat projects on that site... most of them from the mid-2000s back when ITX was new and cool.

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                • ratdude747
                  Black Sheep
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17136
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: a random toner box...

                  i will have pics soon of this, but it has been upgraded. i added a couple sets of velcro straps to hold it shut... and i hot glued a few weak areas (the psu mounts and the straps)

                  i installed xp home... posting from it now. i might just have to find a PIII 1.4ghz for this... the 1.3ghz celeron may not have quite the power it is capable of.

                  don't worry... no bombs in this thing... the fact i used a toner box was just what i had that just happened to fit.
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                  • ratdude747
                    Black Sheep
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 17136
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: a random toner box...

                    i have an updated pic:



                    the straps hold it well...

                    now, for some math:

                    the old case took up roughly 1855 cu. in. of space. the new one takes just over 481 cu. in. of space. the new case is therefore about 3.9 x the volume efficiency of the old case. granted the old case had room for a floppy, 2x optical, 2x hd, but it was not the best layout... you know it is bad when the 3.5 bay puts the floppy in between the two hd's... and the hd cooling was nonexistant... the only nice thing is that the bay was screwlessly removable... but the case was imho butt ugly.

                    the thing seems to be having stability issues. i doubt it is the case, as there were no thermal issues. my thinking is that board is covered in sam youngs... the thing will randomly lock up. i wonder if that would do it...
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                    • Pyr0Beast
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 406

                      #11
                      Re: a random toner box...

                      Celly 1.3 (if not tuallie) is quite weak compared to 1.1GHz P3

                      I laughed quite a bit, seeing a microsoft windows license key on the box

                      Nice mod. Recyclable computer case. Just make sure it doesn't get wet !

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                      • ratdude747
                        Black Sheep
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 17136
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: a random toner box...

                        what makes the COA even funnier is that i mainly use ubuntu linux (exept for an imac g5 upstairs (os 10.5) and an imac g4.

                        this thing has an intel 8xx chipset in it for graphics, so with linux right now, its a pain. my laptop has a 855gm, so it has the same issue (thank god i dualbooted my laptop with xp and ubuntu).

                        i stole the COA off the old case; i put it there for installation conveinence (and so i don't accidentally reuse that code)

                        ps- the cellie is a tualie. but still stuck at 100mhz and 256k cache.
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                        • Pyr0Beast
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 406

                          #13
                          Re: a random toner box...

                          Uh. 815 or something similar is pain on my one (integrated stuff)

                          10.10 works (if you don't install updates when it is installing, but afterwards, don't ask why)

                          It sometimes hangs in gnome and you have to restart and login in safe mode. Tho Xfce works flawlessly with 100MB less ram burned.

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                          • ratdude747
                            Black Sheep
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 17136
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: a random toner box...

                            10.10 works as long as you don't mind vesa. vesa= no 3d, low end 2d.

                            xubuntu (xfce+ubuntu) was on it originally... this box is too slow to do ubuntu (512mb ram max and the current cpu), but fast enoguh to do xp. xubuntu is ok... i have a pIII coppermine compaq with it- it would also do xp well, but it had no coa nor did i have any spares left nor did i have any reason to do xp. the only reason i put xp on this thing was i wanted it to be more usable by others (i would be showing it off). i use ubuntu and mac OSX when i can for personal use, but for stuff leaving the house, it either is dualbooted or xp only.

                            my laptop has a special i855 patch... which is badly broken right now. i will have to boot it in text only mode and scan for updates...
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                            • Pyr0Beast
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 406

                              #15
                              Re: a random toner box...

                              Jup.

                              Xp is a breeze. Everything works perfect here, even S3. Ubuntu - nothing works but it is free )

                              Same 512MB ram here, only two slots. Another 256 would make a biiig difference, but with a slow cpu 933MHz P3 it doesn't really run anything well. Flash on XP kind of works.
                              Tho, running in terminal is quite fast. PHPBB3 forum loads within a sec or two (off atm). Was quite surprised by it as much more powerful system got all sluggish when it was running from windows on a gig of ram.

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                              • ratdude747
                                Black Sheep
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17136
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: a random toner box...

                                i personally do not like xp all that much. the main reason i even keep a few boxes around to run it is that i like keeping my skills sharp on repair/using... good to have for making pocket money here and there.
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                                • Pyr0Beast
                                  Badcaps Veteran
                                  • Feb 2009
                                  • 406

                                  #17
                                  Re: a random toner box...

                                  Yea, same here. But sometimes you just have to use it. Tho on dual cores and 2G+ RAM VBox ain't an issue anymore.
                                  I liked WinXP for it's speed and non-crashability (great upgrade from 98 systems), tho searching drivers for it on newer machines is quite painful, doable but painful.
                                  Once I moved over to Ubuntu and forgot about the games all previous stuff wasn't so important anymore, no activation nonsense, firewall and similar AV stuff to install.

                                  I remember putting a 486 in a similar box, tho never finished it. Glad to see you did

                                  How did you mount the mainboard ?

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                                  • Topcat
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                                    • Oct 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Re: a random toner box...

                                    I've been hard up for cases a few times in my years, but never had to resort to a cardboard box!! Classic!!
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                                    • ratdude747
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                                      • Nov 2008
                                      • 17136
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                                      #19
                                      Re: a random toner box...

                                      the mainboard is mounted by tension. the board is the exact depth as the box... so wen the flaps are closed, it has the bottom of the top flap and the I/O shield pushing the board towards the bottom of the box. the I/O shield also holds it side to side.
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                                      • momaka
                                        master hoarder
                                        • May 2008
                                        • 12164
                                        • Bulgaria

                                        #20
                                        Re: a random toner box...

                                        Cool.
                                        The only suggestion I have is to remove the CPU fan and make a vent so that air from the case fan blows onto the CPU heatsink. Then wire the case fan to run at 7v. Results - a very quiet computer (unless, of course, the hard drive is noisy as they generally are from that age).

                                        Originally posted by ratdude747
                                        comments? failblog worthy? ghetto?
                                        Failblog worthy? -NO
                                        Thereifixedit.com worthy? - Absolutely YES! (That website is pure win).

                                        ....
                                        And it still has better specs than my daily PC (HP Pavilion 8756c: P3 866MHz, 384 MB RAM, 30GB Deskstar, Intel i810 chipset/graphics).

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