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  • chth96
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2022
    • 118
    • indonesia

    #1

    desoldered capacitor is self charging until 0.6 voltage.

    I have an 21 inch CRT TV which is not able to power on.
    I disassembled 21 inch CRT TV and measured voltage of main filter capacitor(Samhwa HC 400WV 220uF) in the circuit.
    It shows 270V on my DMM.

    So I discharged this main filter capactior completely and detached circuit board from cathode-ray tube.
    Then I desoldered this main filter capacitor from circuit board.
    But I noticed that this desoldered large capacitor(Samhwa HC 400WV 220uF) is slowly charged by itself until it reached 0.6V

    I measured its ESR value with MESR-100 and it shows 0.1 ohm,judging by ESR value I think that there is no flaw in this capacitor(Samhwa HC 400WV 220uF).

    By the way,Does it really no flaw in this capacitor which is self charging until 0.6 voltage?
  • Answer selected by chth96 at 04-17-2024, 09:03 AM.
    momaka
    master hoarder
    • May 2008
    • 12175
    • Bulgaria

    Yup, dielectric absorption it is indeed.

    I find this quite often with large high(er) voltage (typically 50+ Volts) capacitors... and also sometimes on larger capacity capacitors that have a very low leakage current / self-discharge rate.

    Latest case of this was when I found a couple of old 42V 4700 uF Panasonic capacitors on a scrap board from a Technics amplifier. Charged them up to 40-ish Volts to reform them, just in case (even though they showed healthy parameters.) After I was done with reforming them and checking their leakage current, I discharged them (safely, though a resistor.) The next day, one had 6.x Volts, and the other almost 9V.

    Originally posted by chth96
    Can I use this large capacitor(Samhwa HC 400WV 220uF) as main filter capacitor in future?
    Absolutely.
    Though I suggest to be careful where you use it. In particular, you might want to avoid using it in PSUs with APFC, because APFC tends to stress primary caps a lot more and some of these "regular" HV caps can overheat internally.

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    • stj
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      • Dec 2009
      • 31025
      • Albion

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      • petehall347
        Badcaps Legend
        • Jan 2015
        • 4426
        • United Kingdom

        #3
        i find some capacitors charge back up after discharging them . be careful it can be quite shocking .

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        • PeteS in CA
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          • Aug 2005
          • 3581
          • USA, Unsure of Planet

          #4
          Dielectric absorption
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          • chth96
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2022
            • 118
            • indonesia

            #5
            By the way it usually took more than 20 hours to charge by itself until 0.6V.
            Then Is it ordinary Dielectric absorption and Can I use this large capacitor(Samhwa HC 400WV 220uF) as main filter capacitor in future?

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            • momaka
              master hoarder
              • May 2008
              • 12175
              • Bulgaria

              #6
              Yup, dielectric absorption it is indeed.

              I find this quite often with large high(er) voltage (typically 50+ Volts) capacitors... and also sometimes on larger capacity capacitors that have a very low leakage current / self-discharge rate.

              Latest case of this was when I found a couple of old 42V 4700 uF Panasonic capacitors on a scrap board from a Technics amplifier. Charged them up to 40-ish Volts to reform them, just in case (even though they showed healthy parameters.) After I was done with reforming them and checking their leakage current, I discharged them (safely, though a resistor.) The next day, one had 6.x Volts, and the other almost 9V.

              Originally posted by chth96
              Can I use this large capacitor(Samhwa HC 400WV 220uF) as main filter capacitor in future?
              Absolutely.
              Though I suggest to be careful where you use it. In particular, you might want to avoid using it in PSUs with APFC, because APFC tends to stress primary caps a lot more and some of these "regular" HV caps can overheat internally.

              Comment

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