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Old 03-05-2013, 05:52 PM   #1
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Default Drones Could Be Used To Kill Americans

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration believes it could technically use
military force to kill an American on U.S. soil in an "extraordinary
circumstance" but has "no intention of doing so," U.S. Attorney General Eric
Holder said in a letter disclosed Tuesday.

Holder's March 4 letter was disclosed by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who had asked
whether the Justice Department believed President Barack Obama had the legal
authority to order a targeted strike against an American citizen located within
the United States.

The Obama administration, Holder said, rejected the use of military force where
"well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best
means for incapacitating a terrorist threat." But in theory, it'd be legal for
the president to order such an attack under certain circumstances, Holder said.

"The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to
occur, and one we hope no president will ever have to confront. It is possible,
I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be
necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the
United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force
within the territory of the United States," Holder wrote.

"For example, the president could conceivably have no choice but to authorize
the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the
circumstances like a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on December 7,
1941, and September 11, 2001," Holder continued, referring to the Japanese
attack on Pearl Harbor and the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and
Pentagon. Holder said he would "examine the particular facts and circumstances"
if such an emergency were to arise.

Paul, who had threatened to filibuster the nomination of John Brennan as CIA
director over secrecy about the U.S. drone program, said in a statement that
Holder's "refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American
citizens and on American soil is more than frightening -- it is an affront the
Constitutional due process rights of all Americans." Holder's letter was first
reported by Adam Serwer of Mother Jones.

Holder is scheduled to appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee for a
Justice Department oversight hearing on Wednesday morning. Earlier in the day,
members of the Senate Intelligence Committee said the administration had agreed
to allow members of the committee to see all of the Office of Legal Counsel
memos relating to the targeted killing of American citizens.

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Kent State gained international attention on May 4, 1970, when an Ohio Army National Guard unit fired at students during an anti-war protest on campus, killing four and wounding nine. The Guard had been called into Kent after several protests in and around campus had become violent, including a riot in downtown Kent and the burning of the ROTC building. The main cause of the protests was the United States' invasion of Cambodia during the Vietnam War.[26] The shootings caused an immediate closure of the campus with students and faculty given just 60 minutes to pack belongings. Around the country, many college campuses canceled classes or closed for fear of similar violent protests.[27] In Kent, schools were closed and the National Guard restricted entry into the city limits, patrolling the area until May 8. With the campus closed, faculty members came up with a variety of solutions — including holding classes in their homes, at public buildings and places, via telephone, or through the mail — to allow their students to complete the term, which was only a few weeks away at the time.[28] In 1971, the University established the Center for Peaceful Change, now known as the Center for Applied Conflict Management, as a "living memorial" to the students who had died. It offers degree programs in Peace and Conflict Studies[29] and Conflict Resolution and is one of the earliest such programs in the United States.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:29 PM   #2
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:58 PM   #3
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Just some more of that 'hope and change' hard at work! Yet another triumph for the far left! They've turned murdering Americans into a game of Quake!
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:01 PM   #4
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Just some more of that 'hope and change' hard at work! Yet another triumph for the far left! They've turned murdering Americans into a game of Quake!
Romney would have had the same power... I'm sure bush did too (they had drones in the later years of his presidency, remember). Just because one states that they have a power doesn't mean they'll use or abuse it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:08 PM   #5
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RIGHT! What ever you say man.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:52 AM   #6
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Time to lower my underground bunker (actually an old fallout shelter) a few more feet?
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:18 AM   #7
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My opinion of Obama has declined considerably. I have come to realise he is just another politician, and really, has no real power.
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Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

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Nope. Washington is rushing towards one world and collectivism as fast as possible. Full speed ahead and dam' the torpedoes.
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