A New DVD Burner

[willawake]

well i made some good money supporting microsoft product

[arneson]

So you own that little tiny antenna way up on top of that Super Yacht.

[trodas]

willawake -

well i made some good money supporting microsoft product

Shame on you, then.

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by willawake

well i made some good money supporting microsoft product

As have I.

I dont believe M$ is the anti-christ. their stuff for the most part is fairly well written and fairly well supported. The newer tactics of anti-piracy have gone overboard, but thats not the worst in the world. I like linux as much as the next guy, but until Linux can be written to be as versatile and supported as windows, MS will continue to be on top. The linux nuts have been trying for a long time, and still havent successfully made a fully funtional replacement for windows. May they keep trying!

[trodas]

Sure, Linux is not bad, but it lack all the software and support only money can buy...

And on the top of that, it is "done by geeks and for geeks" ...

And I didnot believe that M$ is evil, however if you ever used Amiga OS, or Mac OS and fully understand it, then switch to PC and winblows will be like visiting ghetto... Therefore I trying to get off M$ as much, as possible. Certainly I never ever support anything like that. And all the DRM stuff trey started impelemting in Vista, man... now this IS evil that is gotta go!

[willawake]

just before win2k came along i was fed up supporting 98 with the crashes and possibility of the whole os collapsing following some change. it was like building a tower of cards doing the installation.

i was happy to see also the demise of dial up modems and infra red communications. both very problematic things.

now i am happy to support win2k and xp. still though we have the users and i sometimes wonder if i have been contracted to offer mostly psychiatric therapy instead of mostly computer support.

regarding mac os, a friend who is a programmer had many problems to port their software to mac os. he found it incredibly frustrating. The fact is though on the user side that although there is a nice pretty interface, trying to do something advanced requires going back to unix command line.

i would like to see linux take more market share on the server side, i think it is very good although one problem is that it is a very steep learning curve and the manuals are often written in a very heavy style. its great to have the open source style options where you have options for practically everything but it complicates learning the software, it is not intuitive at all for me, like windows often is. i think if i had learnt unix from the beginning it would have been a comfortable transition. In the end, when you look at the total costs including training of personnel it may not be the most cost effective solution. on the user side i cant see any of my users going to linux they have enough problems with windows........

[Rainbow]

Linux is not Windows replacement. It's completely different OS. You have to either accept that or stay with Windows. Creating second Windows from Linux is not going to help. One is enough.

[trodas]

willawake -

regarding mac os, a friend who is a programmer had many problems to port their software to mac os. he found it incredibly frustrating.

Ever considered that the bloated undocumented crap called Windows API is so complicated and weird that it require rewrite most of the code when porting to other system aren't happen w/o reason?
I mean - most programmers claim that these windows specifics are there to make exectly that - probems with porting, witch make the windows exclusive - when it is very hard to port the product, then most companies just don't do it - or the price is very high.

But working on PC versus on Mac is 100 to ONE. And sometimes the porting problems hit windows in the ass, too. As a good example is Quark Xpress on Mac and on Win. On Win it is pretty stripped down, bogged and hard to use piece of software, however on Mac it run flawlessly and it is pleasure to use
Same goes for other software from Adobe too, for example some handy functions and work shortcuting things from Photoshop 32 on Mac are NOT implemented (poorly, but what the hell) in PC Photoshop untill v6.01 ....!

[Maxxarcade]

Originally Posted by willawake

my plextor 716 in the office is pretty good but was expensive. i wouldnt mind finding another plextor 708a its perfect for audio or dvd ripping. i will try NEC next time

That's funny, The 708a was my previous burner, I paid over $300 for it. I moved it to my other computer when I upgraded to a dual layer NEC (and only paid about $40) Plextor makes good stuff but expensive. The NEC's are a great bang for the buck. I get them at Newegg all the time and never had a bad one yet.

[Topcat]

Originally Posted by willawake

just before win2k came along i was fed up supporting 98 with the crashes and possibility of the whole os collapsing following some change. it was like building a tower of cards doing the installation.

I skipped the entire winblows 98, 98SE, and WinME phases.... I went from DOS 6.22 (never used win 3.xx) to Win95 (used for about 7 months), then migrated to WinNT4 from win95 when SP1 came out for NT4, then to Win2k, and then XP Pro...... I worked on enough Win98 systems to know I never wanted that on my personal system....

[elbrute]

I've used HP & Sony burners with no problems.
Currently using Sony DRU510a.

TC
I've used them all except ME. XP is the most stable.
Currently using 2K & XPpro

elbrute'

[arneson]

http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-10149-0...sageID=2158978
This little snaffu ruins my day.
I am very interested in the Corperate issue I hear about.
How could I purchase this?

[Per Hansson]

Originally Posted by willawake

still it is not ok anymore to recommend a brand, everybody is releasing turds every so often. i am not so sure about the LG 4167 i have, on some media it is not recognised on other drives. my plextor 716 in the office is pretty good but was expensive. i wouldnt mind finding another plextor 708a its perfect for audio or dvd ripping. i will try NEC next time

Yea, I'm sorry for recommending that drive, got a cheapo DVD movie in a newletter, of course made by the lowest bid contractor so the quality of the DVD's suface was visually "odd"

Anyway half way into the movie the damn thing stops reading, I try to copy the VOB files manually and get a CRC error... Argh, am getting ready to order a Plextor but remember that I have my old trusty Pioneer DVD-105S with haxxored firmware in the basesment without it's cover and all (was recapping it because it started to behave fishy...) anyway fired it up and it read the DVD just fine ;-)

Think I need to borrow home the laser protection goggles from work though if I'm going to continue to run it like this :P

http://hem.spray.se/hanzzzon/CDLASER.AVI

*note to kids* do not try this at home, I am a laser machine operator and know what I am doing, even though the device is only listed as a class 1 laser product that is because it is contained in a metal chassi and the laser is turned off when the sled is open, you WILL damage your eyesight permanentley if you look at the laser!

[willawake]

Yea, I'm sorry for recommending that drive

no worries, in fact it was very highly recommended everywhere. its not a bad drive at all its just picky with media (but which one isnt). it likes the TY i am using recently. anyway i have various drives for ripping etc.

[Per Hansson]

I've been looking at the new Plextor 760 drives, comes in both IDE and SATA versions, and the price is right to, only 1095SEK or ca 80 bucks or so...

http://www.plextor.be/products/px-76...hoice=PX-760SA

[trodas]

Plextors are pretty good, I had myself one on Amiga (old good times), yet it flustrated me very well that the UW scsi version are sold ONLY for US customers and they won't export it to Europe even when I buy it in the US... Of course a friend in US could fix that, but... that suxx and I ended up with reduction on my UW scsi Amiga 4000 PPC machine...

Anyway, LGs are the worsest drives one could buy for money. I clearly recommend them only for my worsest enemies