DVB recorder box crap

sienoki · 08-21-2012, 02:27 PM

There seems 2 be tons of these crap boxes failing..whats causing them 2 fail?
Any1 here worked on 1..looking at a neighbours 25008DTRADG which has fail displayed & nowt works on remote etc..done the unplug wait 5secs then hold power button at front for 5 secs while pugging it in..it show pls wait then FAIL is displayed..any 1 got any

..thx

tom66 · 08-21-2012, 02:33 PM

HDD failure - is it spinning up, got a spare drive to test?

sienoki · 08-21-2012, 02:37 PM

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HDD failure - is it spinning up, got a spare drive to test?

Hi tom..yeah ive a spare sata hdd..shall i just format it then stick it in the box?..could i use hdd regenerater to check & fix bad sectors..thx

tom66 · 08-21-2012, 02:40 PM

Worth a shot, as far as I know these things use a custom file system though; if you install a blank disk it may pop up with a message asking you to format.

sienoki · 08-21-2012, 02:44 PM

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Worth a shot, as far as I know these things use a custom file system though; if you install a blank disk it may pop up with a message asking you to format.

Its a WD hdd installed..i thought these where good hdds..anyways i will see how it goes

tom66 · 08-21-2012, 03:04 PM

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Its a WD hdd installed..i thought these where good hdds..anyways i will see how it goes

All HDDs fail eventually.

sienoki · 08-21-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tom66

All HDDs fail eventually.

installed spare hdd & the lcd display lit up then pls wait then fail..with original hdd lcd not lit up so im gonna put hdd in my pc & check for & repair bad sectors & see how that goes

tom66 · 08-21-2012, 03:19 PM

Check all supply voltages. There should be 12V and 5V for HDD, and possibly other supplies e.g. 3.3V or 1.8V.

sienoki · 08-21-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tom66

Check all supply voltages. There should be 12V and 5V for HDD, and possibly other supplies e.g. 3.3V or 1.8V.

No bad sectors found..the hdd has 3 partitions 2 must be file systems & 232gb for storage..checked voltages & all seems to be good so stumped again..this will probably be heading for the

unless i could figure out how to recover them 2 file partions & copy them on another hdd..but how far do you go

sienoki · 08-21-2012, 07:49 PM

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No bad sectors found..the hdd has 3 partitions 2 must be file systems & 232gb for storage..checked voltages & all seems to be good so stumped again..this will probably be heading for the

unless i could figure out how to recover them 2 file partions & copy them on another hdd..but how far do you go

Was going over psu 16PW810S when checking the zenor diodes D22 has continuity both ways..thats wrong yeah?..the diode has a marking of 48 on it..could this be the culprit..thx
Tested fine after measuring again..nevermind put it away & get sum kip

tom66 · 08-22-2012, 12:02 AM

Oh god it's a Vestel PVR! Their TVs are bad enough! Pull the zeners and test.

sienoki · 08-22-2012, 01:34 PM

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Oh god it's a Vestel PVR! Their TVs are bad enough! Pull the zeners and test.

Neighbour has now given me this as i cant get it working as yet..any of you guys recommend a good PVR thats gonna last..thx

japlytic · 08-23-2012, 04:29 AM

Some PVRs have poorly designed power supplies, of which can be fatal to connected hard drives if certain rails are not monitored and a critical rail goes out of tolerance - I saw that happen to a Thomson DTR6000AU unit.

sienoki · 08-23-2012, 07:12 AM

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Some PVRs have poorly designed power supplies, of which can be fatal to connected hard drives if certain rails are not monitored and a critical rail goes out of tolerance - I saw that happen to a Thomson DTR6000AU unit.

Ive figured out this set is a Vestel T845 Top Up TV..so from doing allot of research im gonna try a software upgrade with a usb r232..ordered 1 from ebay & ive got the bin file so fingers crossed it might be saved from the

sienoki · 08-27-2012, 12:41 PM

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Ive figured out this set is a Vestel T845 Top Up TV..so from doing allot of research im gonna try a software upgrade with a usb r232..ordered 1 from ebay & ive got the bin file so fingers crossed it might be saved from the

Usb rs232 flashing worked a treat so its saved from the

tom66 · 08-27-2012, 12:49 PM

Great to hear. I had a Freesat HD box with the same issue but I just sold it on, should try flashing it next time.

sienoki · 08-27-2012, 12:59 PM

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Great to hear. I had a Freesat HD box with the same issue but I just sold it on, should try flashing it next time.

I joined digital spy forum & got all info needed there..tom would u have a gander at my neon tv when youve settled at uni..if get it fixed split it when sold?..or pay u 4 ur time..thx

tom66 · 08-27-2012, 01:18 PM

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I joined digital spy forum & got all info needed there..tom would u have a gander at my neon tv when youve settled at uni..if get it fixed split it when sold?..or pay u 4 ur time..thx

We'll have to see how much time I have available, possibly have to be over the weekend. I arrive 18th Sep, but teaching starts on the 24th. I'll only bring my scope and meter, not much else.

sienoki · 08-27-2012, 01:23 PM

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We'll have to see how much time I have available, possibly have to be over the weekend. I arrive 18th Sep, but teaching starts on the 24th. I'll only bring my scope and meter, not much else.

Thx..its sat there doing nowt so theres no rush fella..PM me when youve nowt doing

08-21-2012, 02:27 PM	#1
sienoki sienoki Join Date: Jan 2012 City & State: uk..LEEDS Posts: 293	DVB recorder box crap There seems 2 be tons of these crap boxes failing..whats causing them 2 fail? Any1 here worked on 1..looking at a neighbours 25008DTRADG which has fail displayed & nowt works on remote etc..done the unplug wait 5secs then hold power button at front for 5 secs while pugging it in..it show pls wait then FAIL is displayed..any 1 got any..thx

08-21-2012, 02:33 PM	#2
tom66 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 City & State: University of Leeds (MEng ElecEng undergrad) My Country: UK Line Voltage: 230Vac 50Hz I'm a: Student Tech Posts: 13,538	Re: DVB recorder box crap HDD failure - is it spinning up, got a spare drive to test? __________________ Begin Signature I fix TVs and electronics as a hobby and to save nice things from the dump. 40 LCD TVs, 4 monitors, 13 plasma TVs, and a 6.1 system! Free service manuals database: http://www.tgohome.com/ServiceManuals - Have a manual? Need a manual? Please PM me. I have successfully fixed (from best --> worst build quality): 3 Panasonic Plasmas, 1 Yamaha HTS, 1 NEC Plasma, 2 Sharp LCDs, 2 Toshiba LCDs, 5 Philips Plasma/LCD, 1 Hitachi Plasma, 5 LG LCD/Plasma, 10 Samsung LCD/Plasma, 1 Thomson Plasma, 1 Atec LCD, 1 Hanspree LCD, 1 Xerox LCD, 1 Harwa LCD, 2 Proview LCD, 2 Hyundai LCD, 1 "Onn" LCD, 1 Dell LCD, 1 iiyama LCD, 1 Logik LCD, 5 Bush LCD, 10 Vestel LCDs [Please do not PM me for help: I am a busy student, and we prefer input from all sides on this forum.]

08-21-2012, 02:40 PM	#4
tom66 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 City & State: University of Leeds (MEng ElecEng undergrad) My Country: UK Line Voltage: 230Vac 50Hz I'm a: Student Tech Posts: 13,538	Re: DVB recorder box crap Worth a shot, as far as I know these things use a custom file system though; if you install a blank disk it may pop up with a message asking you to format.

08-21-2012, 03:19 PM	#8
tom66 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 City & State: University of Leeds (MEng ElecEng undergrad) My Country: UK Line Voltage: 230Vac 50Hz I'm a: Student Tech Posts: 13,538	Re: DVB recorder box crap Check all supply voltages. There should be 12V and 5V for HDD, and possibly other supplies e.g. 3.3V or 1.8V.

08-22-2012, 12:02 AM	#11
tom66 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 City & State: University of Leeds (MEng ElecEng undergrad) My Country: UK Line Voltage: 230Vac 50Hz I'm a: Student Tech Posts: 13,538	Re: DVB recorder box crap Oh god it's a Vestel PVR! Their TVs are bad enough! Pull the zeners and test.

08-23-2012, 04:29 AM	#13
japlytic Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 City & State: Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia My Country: Australia Line Voltage: 240VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Posts: 1,295	Re: DVB recorder box crap Some PVRs have poorly designed power supplies, of which can be fatal to connected hard drives if certain rails are not monitored and a critical rail goes out of tolerance - I saw that happen to a Thomson DTR6000AU unit. __________________ My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

08-27-2012, 12:49 PM	#16
tom66 Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 City & State: University of Leeds (MEng ElecEng undergrad) My Country: UK Line Voltage: 230Vac 50Hz I'm a: Student Tech Posts: 13,538	Re: DVB recorder box crap Great to hear. I had a Freesat HD box with the same issue but I just sold it on, should try flashing it next time.

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