Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

[goodpsusearch]

Some days ago I received the caps I ordered including the brand new Panasonic FRs.

It's the first time I get to see Panasonic capacitors without the M logo. I noticed also that the label is plain and gray, not like the Panasonic FM, FK and FC.

Are they genuine?

[Scenic]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

at first, i thought they definitely look like fakes (re-sleeved)..
but on the other hand.. perfect T-vent (doesn't say much though) and the usual panny bung.. hmmmmm..

strange

edit: another thing.. i don't know much about the FR series, but all low-ESR caps from panasonic that i've seen so far always had gold letters/printing.
on non-low-esr / general purpose pannys it's white or silver instead.

[kc8adu]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

odd.datestamp looks wrong too.

[TheLaw]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

That's right. FRs are hideous. I ordered a bunch before off Mouser and there is no Matsushita logo or anything else pretty on it. Pretty bland. They're funny because they don't even say Panasonic on them or anything...Just 105C FR

[TheLaw]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13259

[Pyr0Beast]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

Have similar cap.

FC 16V and 3300uF. Marked with golden print (it is somewhat pale) on bluish plastic. Datestamp is pressed in and in red.

Leads, rubber plug and stamp look fine to me.

[Scenic]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

^that's what all the pannys i know look like

[goodpsusearch]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

I ordered them from here:
http://gr.rsdelivers.com/product/pan...0/7083686.aspx

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13259

Sorry, I missed that. If I knew I wouldn't start a new thread.

[Scenic]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

what all the pannys i know look like (usually.. example of all 3 versions)

top left -> general purpose 105°C (silver markings)
top right -> datecode (etched (?) in the sleeve) of a low-esr panny FM with black sleeve
below that -> other side of the same cap ; gold markings
bottom left -> low esr panny FC ; gold markings, dark blue sleeve (looks a lot more blue-ish on the photo than in real life)
above that -> datecode of another FC .. also etched (?) in



completely off-topic, but anyways..
kind of a bad name for a cap seller..

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

FR are a brand new series.

No Matsushita logo probably just means not made for Panasonic by Matsushita,, made for Panasonic by Panasonic.

Matsushita owns Panasonic [or maybe it's the other way,, I don't remember..]

Changing the color on the date code is probably a cost cutting measure.
.

[yyonline]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

Apparently Panasonic is Matsushita:

http://panasonic.co.jp/corp/news/off...n080110-6.html

I always thought one was the parent company of the other... Maybe the corporate name change has something to do with the loss of the M logo? Were the other series mentioned introduced before the corporate name change in January 2008?

I've ordered some FRs both from Digikey and Mouser. FRs from both sources look the same as those in this thread. As long as they're reliable, I could care less what they look like.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

What that says is Matsushita owned Panasonic and a bunch of other companies and they decided to change the names of all of them [including the parent company Matsushita] to Panasonic .

They aren't gong to have an M logo if they aren't Matsushita anymore.

Kind of a shame...
I used to love saying "Masushita"... like this... MATsuuuSHITA.
Of course using the voice and facial expressions of Kamikaze pilot out of a WWII War movie when you say it help...
.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

I just realized that "Bulgin" is the last thing you want to see on a capacitor bag

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

I just realized that "Bulgin" is the last thing you want to see on a capacitor bag

[goodpsusearch]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

kind of a bad name for a cap seller..

Epic fail

[mockingbird]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

Push in the bunge. If it goes in too easily, then it is a fake.

There very good looking fakes of Panasonic FC coming out of China.

[TheLaw]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

Shoot. Well Panasonic is going to have to figure out a way to make their caps look pretty again.

I genuinely love how Panny's look.

[severach]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

I like the [M] look too. It would be a shame if Panasonic moved to drab labeling that makes it that much harder to pick out the fakes.

[TheLaw]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

When you want to show off your work to other people, some speckling gold letters do help your cause.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Very ugly capacitors... or fake? (Panasonic FR)

I miss the blue/gold MBZ.