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    Power light comes on dell logo appears, test icon appears screen goes blank. When screen is showing logo ccfl's light, when screen goes black they go off. Any thoughts?

    #2
    Re: dell 1740fpt

    Originally posted by showmemule View Post
    Any thoughts?
    1) Clear focused pictures of your boards using manage attachments will help. Please do not post inline.

    2) If you hookup a computer displaying your favourite wallpaper, can you see it by shining a flashlight on the display?
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      #3
      Re: dell 1740fpt

      Yes you can see either logo or wall paper, with bright light. Checked all caps, good. Transistors appear good, no shorts, or burned resistors.

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        #4
        Re: dell 1740fpt

        Originally posted by showmemule View Post
        Yes you can see either logo or wall paper, with bright light.
        You have 2 seconds to black. Possible causes in no particular order are

        a) bad caps
        b) bad inverter transformer
        c) bad ccfl
        d) bad ccfl wiring

        See (starting with post #13) for all the details ...

        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10419

        edit: How are you checking the caps and concluding they are good? ESR meter?
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          #5
          Re: dell 1740fpt

          Replaced all caps as I have no esr. And I guess I have not got permission to post attachments, as the faq says I should have a tab to select and I do not see one?

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            #6
            Re: dell 1740fpt

            My mistake looked in wrong place. I am new to this forum structure, will try to be more observant. here are pics I have used, to show my boards.
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              #7
              Re: dell 1740fpt

              Originally posted by showmemule View Post
              Replaced all caps as I have no esr. And I guess I have not got permission to post attachments, as the faq says I should have a tab to select and I do not see one?
              What brand and series did you use for replacements?

              Scroll down after you type your text. It is in additional options section.
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                #8
                Re: dell 1740fpt

                You sure that's not a Dell 1704FPT not 1740FPT? I couldn't find any manuals or drivers for a "1740" at Dell

                If it is a 1704FPT then the solution is the same as the one found in this recent thread https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11807

                The inverter comes with a 22uF 50v cap, when it should be a 2.2uF 50v. The caps are mismatched. In my case it took out the inverter transformer too.

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                  #9
                  Re: dell 1740fpt

                  Originally posted by showmemule View Post
                  here are pics I have used, to show my boards.
                  For some reason, I can't open these pics?

                  This forum will accept 2000x2000 resolution up to about 2MB in size.

                  Please try again.
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                    #10
                    Re: dell 1740fpt

                    Thought it was just me that couldn't open them

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                      #11
                      Re: dell 1740fpt

                      Originally posted by sabre504 View Post
                      Thought it was just me that couldn't open them
                      Nope. I'm not sure what he did, but it WAS creative.

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                        #12
                        Re: dell 1740fpt

                        Originally posted by PlainBill View Post
                        Nope. I'm not sure what he did, but it WAS creative.

                        PlainBill
                        somehow attached images was used,
                        should have been attached thumbnails.
                        Use the managed attatchments and resize to 2000x2000 or less.
                        Al
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                          #13
                          Re: dell 1740fpt

                          Ok let me try this agin it is a dell 1704fpt not a 1740fpt. duh! Thats why I check my replacement parts more than once before I change them. I replaced all the caps with new capxon, tit, for tat, whatever value and style the board had is what I replaced it with, regardless as to if it checked good with my vom. Yes I know thats not a certain way to check but at this point all I can afford, caps are cheap compared to the uncertain check of a vom when I try to problem solve a odd board problem. As for the pic I will check resolution and re attach. Right now I am away from my main storage drive. Thanks for your patience while I try to learn.

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                            #14
                            Re: dell 1740fpt

                            Originally posted by showmemule View Post
                            I replaced all the caps with new capxon, tit, for tat
                            Capxon doesn't have a very stellar reputation here. A list of good quality low ESR capacitors is here

                            https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2280
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                              #15
                              Re: dell 1740fpt

                              Originally posted by showmemule View Post
                              Ok let me try this agin it is a dell 1704fpt not a 1740fpt. duh! Thats why I check my replacement parts more than once before I change them. I replaced all the caps with new capxon, tit, for tat, whatever value and style the board had is what I replaced it with, regardless as to if it checked good with my vom. Yes I know thats not a certain way to check but at this point all I can afford, caps are cheap compared to the uncertain check of a vom when I try to problem solve a odd board problem. As for the pic I will check resolution and re attach. Right now I am away from my main storage drive. Thanks for your patience while I try to learn.
                              Ok, good. I just repaired a Dell 1704FPT 2 days ago. In my case the inverter section of the board had a 22uf 50v capacitor, when it should have been a 2.2uf 50v. (located at C112) Those 2 small caps need to be matched. (2.2uf 50v)

                              Here's what fixed it for me......

                              1. Replaced capacitor at C112 (the 22uf 50v) with a 2.2uf 50v

                              2. Replaced the transformer at T102. (ring tester showed primary had shorted)

                              3. Replaced resistor at R125 (even though it tested good, it had really gotten hot and the whole area was brown) This is probably optional

                              Good luck

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                                #16
                                Re: dell 1740fpt

                                Why did it have the wrong caps had someone been there before ye. I will look at mine and see thanks for the info.

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                                  #17
                                  Re: dell 1740fpt

                                  I just got a dead one of these as well. Won't power up at all.

                                  I see three leaky caps in the upper left. I figure I'll replace those.

                                  The two caps at the bottom are also different, 2.2 left 22 right, should I replace the right one?

                                  And since it won't power at all, should I check anything else or would those caps be the most likely culprit?

                                  Thanks!
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                                    #18
                                    Re: dell 1740fpt

                                    Originally posted by michaelahess View Post
                                    I see three leaky caps in the upper left. I figure I'll replace those.

                                    The two caps at the bottom are also different, 2.2 left 22 right, should I replace the right one?
                                    Capxon makes some of the worst quality caps around. My standard answer below (regulars may skip).

                                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...84&postcount=3

                                    And since it won't power at all, should I check anything else or would those caps be the most likely culprit?
                                    Check the fuse. A good fuse should measure less than 1.0 ohms.
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                                      #19
                                      Re: dell 1740fpt

                                      Fuse tests good. I'll order up some caps. Would it be wise to replace all the larger 470uf 35v ones as well?

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                                        #20
                                        Re: dell 1740fpt

                                        Yes if they are capxon, There are other tests you might want to do first - this is only a 17inch screen if the ccfls or transformers have gone how much would you spend to repair it? Please can you update your profile with Country and mains voltage.
                                        Next test would be voltage on the BIG cap CARE required as HIGH voltage. All connected up and switched on set meter on 600vDC put red probe on positive leg and black probe on negative leg and post results.
                                        Another easy test is on the inverter transformers secondary windings.
                                        Power off ( for 5 minutes at least) Set Meter on 2000 ohms and measure secondary windings cant see the pin numbers but is the two on the outer ends -Post results
                                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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