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Old 07-04-2012, 07:35 AM   #21
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I do have visual access, but my speakers are at my home, and I'm at work, so I'll do all that when I'm back home!
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:36 AM   #22
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I do have visual access, but my speakers are at my home, and I'm at work, so I'll do all that when I'm back home!
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:49 PM   #23
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Measure the voltage at the V+/V- pins and ground for the LM4558 as Ben7 suggested. If it is not so high as to damage the opamp, then replace the two large caps right after the diodes. If it is too high and damaged the opamp, replace that too.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:52 AM   #24
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Hi ben7.

OK, i plugged it in again, and watched the speaker cone. It doesn't suck in, nor does it push out. It starts vibrating immideately, first small vibrations, for a second, and then with, i guess, full power.

Measured what you told me. Upper black contact measures 0.48, and lower is at zero. Multimeteris set to 20V

edit: that was with the speakers turned off. When I turned them on, voltage on the upper is about 9.27 (it's variable, but around that value), and on the lower is constant -0.7. Multimeter is again, on the 20V setting.

Those black circles are legs of the two caps (100 uf, 25v).

I am looking for the 4558 datasheet so i'll know where are v+ and v- legs. Then i'll do the reading

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Old 07-05-2012, 06:08 AM   #25
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OK, so here's the datasheet:

http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pd.../1/LM4558.html

What should I measure? And should i do it with the speakers powered on?
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:30 AM   #26
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I see NP on the electrolytics... are those nonpolarized caps?
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:53 AM   #27
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Default Re: Genius SP-HF1250X - 2.0 speakers

Pin 4 is B-, pin 8 is B+ on the OP-AMP. You put the black probe of the meter to the DC ground (you can use the RCA input jack outer body for ground, the red will be used fro checking the voltage with speaker on.
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Hi ben7.

OK, i plugged it in again, and watched the speaker cone. It doesn't suck in, nor does it push out. It starts vibrating immideately, first small vibrations, for a second, and then with, i guess, full power.

Measured what you told me. Upper black contact measures 0.48, and lower is at zero. Multimeteris set to 20V

edit: that was with the speakers turned off. When I turned them on, voltage on the upper is about 9.27 (it's variable, but around that value), and on the lower is constant -0.7. Multimeter is again, on the 20V setting.

Those black circles are legs of the two caps (100 uf, 25v).

I am looking for the 4558 datasheet so i'll know where are v+ and v- legs. Then i'll do the reading
YAY, a problem! The lower should be just about the same voltage as the upper, but negative. So the lower one should be about -9v.
FYI: I traced the tracks, which was very easy due to the good pictures, and those are the + and - power rails for the opamp.

Can you please measure the resistance of R44 (its a 470 ohm resistor)?
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:04 PM   #29
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will be done tonight people. Once again, you have big thank you for your patience!
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:05 PM   #30
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will be done tonight people. Once again, you have big thank you for your patience!
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