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    #21
    Re: acer al1916w going bad

    Originally posted by 1supertech View Post

    I tested Mosfet’s

    Top Mosfet 1

    D1-->G1 -08.76
    G1-->S1 -000.0
    D1-->S1 -08.81


    Mosfet 2

    D1-->G1-08.84
    G1-->S1- 000.0
    D1-->S1- 08.74

    Mosfet 3
    D1-->G1 08.68
    G1-->S1 000.0
    D1-->S1 08.28


    Mosfet 4
    D1-->G1 08.65
    G1-->S1 000.0
    D1-->S1 08.67
    1) For all your readings, momaka's #1 applies here.

    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...26&postcount=5

    2) All your mosfets are shorted gate to source.
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      #22
      Re: acer al1916w going bad

      Originally posted by Rtech View Post
      The photo shows one line of pins,what about the other line,are they not marked ?? or is every pin in the top line connected to the pin immedoately below it...suggest some will be eg the Ground,it may be the DET pin,BUT check what the other ones are supposed to be..
      Pic other side top view
      Attached Files

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        #23
        Re: acer al1916w going bad

        Bottom row Top row
        1 aol+ - aol-
        2 aor+ - aor-
        3 shut - mute
        4 v adj - +13.8v
        5 +5v - +5v
        6 det - gnd
        7 gnd - gnd
        8 eva - Adj

        F102 is beneath this connector and should be marked w

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          #24
          Re: acer al1916w going bad

          Originally posted by retiredcaps View Post
          1) For all your readings, momaka's #1 applies here.

          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...26&postcount=5

          2) All your mosfets are shorted gate to source.
          What do you think made them short out age or bad soldering job

          should the f200 fuse protect that side of inverter board?
          Last edited by 1supertech; 06-24-2012, 08:24 AM.

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            #25
            Re: acer al1916w going bad

            Originally posted by sabre504 View Post
            Bottom row Top row
            1 aol+ - aol-
            2 aor+ - aor-
            3 shut - mute
            4 v adj - +13.8v
            5 +5v - +5v
            6 det - gnd
            7 gnd - gnd
            8 eva - Adj

            F102 is beneath this connector and should be marked w

            By connector do you mean power connector? I looked all over for a W
            I know what your saying I have ssen this fuse in one of my ebooks.

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              #26
              Re: acer al1916w going bad

              Looks like the mosfets need sorting then,before anything else.

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                #27
                Re: acer al1916w going bad

                Originally posted by Rtech View Post
                Looks like the mosfets need sorting then,before anything else.
                Will order mosfets today
                What do you think shorted them out?

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                  #28
                  Re: acer al1916w going bad

                  Circled in yellow
                  Attached Files

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                    #29
                    Re: acer al1916w going bad

                    Originally posted by sabre504 View Post
                    Circled in yellow
                    What is circled in yellow I see black lines

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                      #30
                      Re: acer al1916w going bad

                      Hi - he has marked where the fuse is with a yellow oblong.
                      Left hand side half way down just to the right of the connector
                      it is a small black fuse with a white w on it.

                      I believe the Mosfets fail because of fluctuating voltages often due to
                      bad caps - you should replace all the caps on the power supply with
                      good make ones - panasonic fm or fc.
                      Last edited by selldoor; 06-24-2012, 10:14 AM.
                      Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                        #31
                        Re: acer al1916w going bad

                        Originally posted by selldoor View Post
                        Hi - he has marked where the fuse is with a yellow oblong.
                        Left hand side half way down just to the right of the connector
                        it is a small black fuse with a white w on it.

                        I believe the Mosfets fail because of fluctuating voltages often due to
                        bad caps - you should replace all the caps on the power supply with
                        good make ones - panasonic fm or fc.
                        I don't believe I missed that yellow square need glasses but any way

                        I ordered a repair kit from ebay
                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAC-12M030-R...-/320634046613

                        but as far as that fuse I still can't find it
                        here is the pic of my board looking at the same direction as the other pic that Sabre sent
                        Attached Files

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                          #32
                          Re: acer al1916w going bad

                          Just goes to show why members ask for photos of Boards as the differences can be many.These mosfets fail whether Caps are good or bad, they just seem not to stay the distance.But change the caps anyway, and hopefully that will out you back in business for a long time.

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                            #33
                            Re: acer al1916w going bad

                            Thanks to all
                            I will update when my parts come in

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                              #34
                              Re: acer al1916w going bad

                              Originally posted by 1supertech View Post
                              Thanks to all
                              I will update when my parts come in
                              Update I received all my parts recapped board all new transformer Mosfet.
                              Turned it on and no image did flash light test I have an image. I think we are progressing

                              Did a continuity test on inverter transformers on primary side top one is 0.752
                              bottom one 0.000 Hope did this right.

                              Another problem is that the original owner of this monitor burned this spot where capacitor joint is can this be fixed.
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by 1supertech; 06-29-2012, 07:39 AM.

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                                #35
                                Re: acer al1916w going bad

                                Hi Not sure about your test - can you post the numbers off the sides of the transformers and a picture of the underside of your board might help.
                                The solder/trace damage is repairable. Looks like it may be just solerable or it just needs a wire to connect the trace then solder the cap leg to the wire.
                                Youd need to check first that that is where the trace went - will be easier
                                looking at the actual board.
                                Attached Files
                                Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                  #36
                                  Re: acer al1916w going bad

                                  Originally posted by selldoor View Post
                                  Hi Not sure about your test - can you post the numbers off the sides of the transformers and a picture of the underside of your board might help.
                                  The solder/trace damage is repairable. Looks like it may be just solerable or it just needs a wire to connect the trace then solder the cap leg to the wire.
                                  Youd need to check first that that is where the trace went - will be easier
                                  looking at the actual board.
                                  Inverter transformer # both are 2904761000
                                  Attached Files
                                  Last edited by 1supertech; 06-29-2012, 09:54 AM.

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                                    #37
                                    Re: acer al1916w going bad

                                    Hi - no hits on that number. I have looked at the partial
                                    board picure but its not on there. However if you look
                                    at the top left it looks loke a cap may have been soldered in. -The joint on the right doesnt look great (sorry if you did it) but there is also mark/damage to the trace between the legs. It may be just shadow or flux but you can check its not connecting to the left leg of the cap.

                                    Good I will look at the picture now added - thanks
                                    Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                      #38
                                      Re: acer al1916w going bad

                                      Thanks yes I did it shame on me will fix that
                                      thanks selldoor

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                                        #39
                                        Re: acer al1916w going bad

                                        No shame - we have all been there. - May have to hold your hand up to more.
                                        I attach a pic marked with some dodgy bits - may be ok- just for you to check.
                                        Recommend looking over it all with a magnifying glass.

                                        Couldnt tell for certain which were the secondary windings on the transformers - I see the 4 posts have been marked. You will need to number
                                        the posts 1 to9 or whatever then with meter on ohms2000 check pin 1>2
                                        1>3 1>4 ........2>3 3>4...... etc etc and compare the two transformers.
                                        Primary is usually 3-6 ohms will read 0.00 in tet and secondaries 400-1500ohms.
                                        Attached Files
                                        Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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                                          #40
                                          Re: acer al1916w going bad

                                          Originally posted by selldoor View Post
                                          Hi - no hits on that number. I have looked at the partial
                                          board picure but its not on there. However if you look
                                          at the top left it looks loke a cap may have been soldered in. -The joint on the right doesnt look great (sorry if you did it) but there is also mark/damage to the trace between the legs. It may be just shadow or flux but you can check its not connecting to the left leg of the cap.

                                          Good I will look at the picture now added - thanks
                                          I fixed my soldering mistakes and fixed the bad trace to the cap by soldering a wire to cap leg it works it fired up
                                          Attached Files

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