Counterfeit Samxons

MixMasta · 01-01-2007, 02:09 PM

http://www.manyue.com/PDF/pressreleasePDF_39.pdf

Imitation is the highest form of flattery...

**Topcat** · 01-01-2007, 02:13 PM

wow......

Big Pope? Any further info on this?

PeteS in CA · 01-01-2007, 02:16 PM

Well, as the saying goes, counterfeiters don't usually counterfeit $3 bills. Hopefully this means that Samxon products are good enough to be worth counterfeiting.

**willawake** · 01-01-2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Hopefully this means that Samxon products are good enough to be worth counterfeiting.

thats true but anyway if you are sourcing from big pope or topcat then its coming direct from the samxon factory so no worry.

Big Pope · 01-01-2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

wow......

Big Pope? Any further info on this?

Wow, i know this matter from here only today.

I never heard this matter from them or market in previous period. I guess Samxon's brand is growing up now, it is a good news.

All guys, don't worry. My Samxon caps are sourced from Man Yue Electronics Co., Ltd. DIRECTLY. There is absolutely no fake caps if anyone buy the Samxon caps from me.

**Topcat** · 01-01-2007, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Pope

Wow, i know this matter from here only today.

I never heard this matter from them or market in previous period. I guess Samxon's brand is growing up now, it is a good news.

All guys, don't worry. My Samxon caps are sourced from Man Yue Electronics Co., Ltd. DIRECTLY. There is absolutely no fake caps if anyone buy the Samxon caps from me.

Thank you for clearing that up Joe. I get my Samxon caps from Big Pope as well, and I can assure you they are genuine.

MD Willington · 01-03-2007, 11:02 AM

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

tazwegion · 01-05-2007, 04:46 AM

Instead of all the time these fraudsters spend copying other products, they should invest in R&D and offer something decent themselves

Big Pope · 04-16-2008, 09:07 PM

Update! There is Notice Of Discovery Of Counterfeit Samxon Products (II) released.

http://www.samxon.com/PDF/pressreleasePDF_53.pdf

bgavin · 04-16-2008, 10:11 PM

There is some guy from China selling Panasonic "FL" caps. I don't find any reference to series FL in the literature.

**kc8adu** · 04-17-2008, 03:42 AM

could that be why we are seeing bad gl and gd in lcd's?

Scenic · 04-17-2008, 03:44 AM

hmm... i found Panasonic FL series caps on one of my mainboards...

ECS 915P-A Rev. 1.2 (intel 915 chipset, LGA775)

http://upload.wozzap.de/up/FL1.jpg
http://upload.wozzap.de/up/FL2.jpg

they look genuine to me... even the T-vent. and they work fine

weird that they aren't mentioned anywhere (like bgavin said) o.O

edit: they were on the board when i got it. a mix of pannys for the whole VRM area and the rest is full of small OST RLS Series..

Big Pope · 04-17-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc8adu

could that be why we are seeing bad gl and gd in lcd's?

There is no histroy in Samxon procuts catalogues, so i can't find GL data sheet.

GD or GF?

**willawake** · 04-17-2008, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scenic

hmm... i found Panasonic FL series caps on one of my mainboards...

FL FJ FF are genuine series but only made in malaysia

**kc8adu** · 04-17-2008, 05:35 PM

i have seen a ton of gl bad.
they are brown.
the other ones are gf.

Big Pope · 04-18-2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc8adu

i have seen a ton of gl bad.
they are brown.
the other ones are gf.

Any photos of GL? I will ask this matter from the factory directly.

bgavin · 05-04-2008, 12:47 PM

I acquired an MSI board, MS-7210 v3.0, 945GM2H-F.

This board is populated entirely with Panasonc FJ and FL.

Q1: does anybody have a data sheet for FL?

Q2: should these be recapped with MCZ?

**kc8adu** · 05-04-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgavin

I acquired an MSI board, MS-7210 v3.0, 945GM2H-F.

This board is populated entirely with Panasonc FJ and FL.

Q1: does anybody have a data sheet for FL?

Q2: should these be recapped with MCZ?

why???
i have never seen fj or fl bad.
pics?

bgavin · 05-05-2008, 12:16 PM

That is what I wanted to find out. The ESR numbers are not particularly low for the ones I can identify. I don't have any datasheet for FL, so no clue as to what the ESR values are.

I will put up some photos.

Big Pope · 05-05-2008, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc8adu

why???
i have never seen fj or fl bad.
pics?

I have seen FJ failed in Asus and MSI Socket 939 baords last year, just a few.

I will keep my eye, we see.

01-01-2007, 02:09 PM	#1
MixMasta Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 City & State: Novi, MI Posts: 132	Counterfeit Samxons http://www.manyue.com/PDF/pressreleasePDF_39.pdf Imitation is the highest form of flattery...

01-01-2007, 02:13 PM	#2
Topcat The Boss Stooge Join Date: Oct 2003 City & State: Salem, MO My Country: United States Line Voltage: 120VAC 60Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 6,366	Re: Counterfeit Samxons wow...... Big Pope? Any further info on this? __________________ <--- Badcaps.net Owner & Forum Administrator!! Badcaps.net Services: Premade Capacitor Kits Badcaps.net Capacitor Master List Motherboard Repair Services If you've come here in search of replacement capacitors or repair services, please use the links above. ---------------------------------------------- Badcaps.net Forum Members Folding Team http://folding.stanford.edu/ Team : 49813 Join in!! Team Stats

01-01-2007, 02:16 PM	#3
PeteS in CA Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 City & State: San Jose, CA My Country: USA, Unsure of Planet Line Voltage: 120VAC, 60Hz & 115VAC, 400Hz I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 1,570	Re: Counterfeit Samxons Well, as the saying goes, counterfeiters don't usually counterfeit $3 bills. Hopefully this means that Samxon products are good enough to be worth counterfeiting. __________________ PeteS in CA Republican Operative discussion forums Where might is right There is no right. - Sophocles in "Antigone" ************************** All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring ************************** To kill personal responsibility, initiative or success, punish it by taxing it. To encourage irresponsibility, improvidence, dependence and failure, reward it by subsidizing it.

01-03-2007, 11:02 AM	#7
MD Willington Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 City & State: WA, USA. Posts: 702	Re: Counterfeit Samxons Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. __________________ *Ya'll think us folk from the country's real funny-like, dontcha?* The opinions expressed above do not represent those of BADCAPS.NET or any of their affiliates.

01-05-2007, 04:46 AM	#8
tazwegion Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 City & State: Victoria, Australia Posts: 382	Re: Counterfeit Samxons Instead of all the time these fraudsters spend copying other products, they should invest in R&D and offer something decent themselves __________________

04-16-2008, 10:11 PM	#10
bgavin Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 City & State: Orangevale, CA Posts: 1,350	Re: Counterfeit Samxons There is some guy from China selling Panasonic "FL" caps. I don't find any reference to series FL in the literature.

04-17-2008, 03:42 AM	#11
kc8adu Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: dayton ohio Posts: 6,434	Re: Counterfeit Samxons could that be why we are seeing bad gl and gd in lcd's?

04-17-2008, 03:44 AM	#12
Scenic o.O Join Date: Sep 2007 City & State: Duisburg My Country: Germany Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz Posts: 2,616	Re: Counterfeit Samxons hmm... i found Panasonic FL series caps on one of my mainboards... ECS 915P-A Rev. 1.2 (intel 915 chipset, LGA775) http://upload.wozzap.de/up/FL1.jpg http://upload.wozzap.de/up/FL2.jpg they look genuine to me... even the T-vent. and they work fine weird that they aren't mentioned anywhere (like bgavin said) o.O edit: they were on the board when i got it. a mix of pannys for the whole VRM area and the rest is full of small OST RLS Series.. Last edited by Scenic; 04-17-2008 at 03:47 AM..

04-17-2008, 05:35 PM	#15
kc8adu Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: dayton ohio Posts: 6,434	Re: Counterfeit Samxons i have seen a ton of gl bad. they are brown. the other ones are gf.

05-04-2008, 12:47 PM	#17
bgavin Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 City & State: Orangevale, CA Posts: 1,350	Re: Counterfeit Samxons I acquired an MSI board, MS-7210 v3.0, 945GM2H-F. This board is populated entirely with Panasonc FJ and FL. Q1: does anybody have a data sheet for FL? Q2: should these be recapped with MCZ?

05-05-2008, 12:16 PM	#19
bgavin Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 City & State: Orangevale, CA Posts: 1,350	Re: Counterfeit Samxons That is what I wanted to find out. The ESR numbers are not particularly low for the ones I can identify. I don't have any datasheet for FL, so no clue as to what the ESR values are. I will put up some photos.

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