Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method!

Agent24 · 11-18-2011, 06:37 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8pcs-Hollow-...-/140634502886

Got to love the Chinglish

"Use the needle penetration component pin, heated with a soldering iron, slightly rotated, you can make the copper component pin and line separation"

retiredcaps · 11-18-2011, 06:55 PM

Geez, the fit and finish of the tool is terrible. It looks like it is made of candle wax.

shovenose · 11-18-2011, 07:19 PM

Quote:

The core needle made ??of stainless steel, it is not adhesion
Use the needle penetration component pin, heated with a soldering iron, slightly rotated, you can make the copper component pin and line separation
Note: The product does not appear to work fine, a little rough, this is not a quality problem, does not affect the use of

**Topcat** · 11-18-2011, 07:37 PM

thats when I know I'm getting somewhere....my dentist pick method has been copied by the chinese.... HAHAHA it probably was around before Badcaps.net, but I had never heard of it in almost 2 decades of electronics work. I experimented with it when I began working on multi-layer PCB's, as solder suckers (especially mechainical ones) would do more harm than good. Once I got it mastered in my mind, I shared it....and it apparently caught on.......but I doubt I'm the originator, I don't really know who is.

The ones using Dremels to drill out through holes are the ones I'd get furious with....

Toasty · 11-18-2011, 08:39 PM

Looks more like a Molex connector pin removal set. Love the hypodermic tips on 2 of those.

For $2.31, I might just have a go at one set.

PCBONEZ · 11-18-2011, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toasty

Looks more like a Molex connector pin removal set. Love the hypodermic tips on 2 of those.

For $2.31, I might just have a go at one set.

It is a pin removal set.
Or possibly a really cheap leather or gasket punch set.
[Removable end of the handle may be the exit or clean-out for the 'punchings'.]

I'll bet if you heat them up soldering the metal will melt out of the plastic handles.
.

Agent24 · 11-18-2011, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredcaps

Geez, the fit and finish of the tool is terrible. It looks like it is made of candle wax.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. The one in the middle looks the best, seems with the rest there wasn't enough plastic to fill the mold? Maybe that's what they were referring to in the description:

"The product does not appear to work fine, a little rough, this is not a quality problem, does not affect the use of"

Toasty, you can tell us what they're like

**Topcat** · 11-18-2011, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toasty

Looks more like a Molex connector pin removal set. Love the hypodermic tips on 2 of those.

For $2.31, I might just have a go at one set.

For 2.31, you certainly dont have much to lose. FWIW, I have a lifetime stash of my SS dental picks...in 11 years of using them to clear through holes, I've broken 2.... Do let us know how they work if you grab a set.

Toasty · 11-19-2011, 01:22 AM

Done. Should be here before Christmas... LOL!!

S-L-O-W boat from China.

Agent24 · 11-19-2011, 02:48 AM

How long does it usually takes for you guys to get stuff from China?
For me it's usually 2-3 weeks.

Recently though an EPROM eraser I bought took 6 weeks and some DIP ZIF sockets even longer - don't know what happened there.

PCBONEZ · 11-19-2011, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent24

How long does it usually takes for you guys to get stuff from China?
For me it's usually 2-3 weeks.

Recently though an EPROM eraser I bought took 6 weeks and some DIP ZIF sockets even longer - don't know what happened there.

That's about what I get.
Usually 2-3 weeks. Occasionally 6 or 7.
.

mariushm · 11-19-2011, 05:11 AM

Usually 20 days - lately the customs does extra checking on packages from China so my latest orders shipped on the 16th and 24th last month were released to me only yesterday...

**kc8adu** · 11-19-2011, 06:57 AM

ROFLOL!
looks like a waste of $2.31 to me!
the engrish.
Brand new and high quality
The core needle made ??of stainless steel, it is not adhesion
Use the needle penetration component pin, heated with a soldering iron, slightly rotated, you can make the copper component pin and line separation
Note: The product does not appear to work fine, a little rough, this is not a quality problem, does not affect the use of.

**ratdude747** · 11-19-2011, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

For 2.31, you certainly dont have much to lose. FWIW, I have a lifetime stash of my SS dental picks...in 11 years of using them to clear through holes, I've broken 2.... Do let us know how they work if you grab a set.

where did you get yours? I have yet to find them anywhere...

Toasty · 11-19-2011, 08:53 AM

>>ROFLOL!
looks like a waste of $2.31 to me!
the engrish.<<

Hey!

I actually wasted $18 bucks with them. Have this thing for cheap LED flashlights...

.

PCBONEZ · 11-19-2011, 10:43 AM

Don't miss their:
"New Fashion Long Sleeve Dress Multifunction Women Sweet Splice Slim"
or their:
"New Fashion Snowflake Nine Pants Multifunction Tight Graffiti Imitation Jeans"
.

ant3202 · 12-04-2011, 08:22 AM

lol.... direct translation

Toasty · 01-05-2012, 10:23 AM

Well, got this fairly quickly. About 10 days.

Attached a pic from the auction.

Box is 4" x 2.5"

Handles are 2-5/8"

Color caps on handle ends just snap on for color coding.

OD of Blunt hollow tips are 1.0, 1.4, 1.6, 1.8, & 2.0mm

OD of Hypodermic needle tips are 0.8 & 1.2mm

ID of each is 2 sizes down from OD - 1.6mm fits inside 2.0mm

OD of Solid pointed tip is 1.2mm

Am going to blunt the hypodermic ones. Just too dangerous to be laying around on the bench.

The flashlights were more interesting than this. One was nicely made and -very- bright for a single LED.

Toast

lti · 01-05-2012, 04:28 PM

How are those huge pins supposed to fit inside the holes in the circuit board?

LLLlllou · 02-08-2013, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lti

How are those huge pins supposed to fit inside the holes in the circuit board?

I actually use these on an almost daily basis . . . well, one of them at least. The smallest diameter is perfect for MoBo cap holes, it's also hollow, so very little mass to wick away the heat. Unfortunately the rest are essentially useless due to being too thick.

They could not be made more cheaply if they spent millions on R&D to achieve "the worlds shittiest implementation of a needle in a stick of plastic". They really are godawful cheap/shitty, but I would not recap without mine, love it! I've been meaning to order a few more as backups. I might even try putting one or two in real handles with some epoxy.

11-18-2011, 06:37 PM	#1
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11-18-2011, 06:55 PM	#2
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11-18-2011, 08:39 PM	#5
Toasty Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 City & State: East Coast, USA Line Voltage: 220-221 I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 3,917	Re: Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method! Looks more like a Molex connector pin removal set. Love the hypodermic tips on 2 of those. For $2.31, I might just have a go at one set. __________________ veritas odium parit

11-19-2011, 01:22 AM	#9
Toasty Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 City & State: East Coast, USA Line Voltage: 220-221 I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 3,917	Re: Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method! Done. Should be here before Christmas... LOL!! S-L-O-W boat from China.

11-19-2011, 02:48 AM	#10
Agent24 Fuhjyyu Killer Join Date: Oct 2007 City & State: Behind a soldering iron My Country: New Zealand Line Voltage: 230V AC 50Hz Posts: 1,615	Re: Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method! How long does it usually takes for you guys to get stuff from China? For me it's usually 2-3 weeks. Recently though an EPROM eraser I bought took 6 weeks and some DIP ZIF sockets even longer - don't know what happened there.

11-19-2011, 05:11 AM	#12
mariushm Badcaps Veteran Join Date: May 2011 City & State: Romania Line Voltage: 230VAC 50Hz I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 2,218	Re: Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method! Usually 20 days - lately the customs does extra checking on packages from China so my latest orders shipped on the 16th and 24th last month were released to me only yesterday...

11-19-2011, 06:57 AM	#13
kc8adu Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 City & State: dayton ohio Posts: 6,490	Re: Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method! ROFLOL! looks like a waste of $2.31 to me! the engrish. Brand new and high quality The core needle made ??of stainless steel, it is not adhesion Use the needle penetration component pin, heated with a soldering iron, slightly rotated, you can make the copper component pin and line separation Note: The product does not appear to work fine, a little rough, this is not a quality problem, does not affect the use of.

11-19-2011, 08:53 AM	#15
Toasty Badcaps Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 City & State: East Coast, USA Line Voltage: 220-221 I'm a: Professional Tech Posts: 3,917	Re: Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method! >>ROFLOL! looks like a waste of $2.31 to me! the engrish.<< Hey! I actually wasted $18 bucks with them. Have this thing for cheap LED flashlights... .

11-19-2011, 10:43 AM	#16
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12-04-2011, 08:22 AM	#17
ant3202 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 110	Re: Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method! lol.... direct translation

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lti Badcaps Veteran Join Date: May 2011 City & State: Windsor, Colorado My Country: United States I'm a: Hobbyist Tech Posts: 1,182	Re: Looks like the Chinese are on to the needle method! How are those huge pins supposed to fit inside the holes in the circuit board?

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