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Join Date: Jul 2010
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My Sceptre X32GV-Komodo is not powering on properly
took out the power supply and it look like 3 cap are bulging there Capxon small one 14mm 470uf 10v kf temp 105c c642 bigger one 18 mm 220uf 35v KF temp 105c biggest 20 mm 820uf 25v SY 105c 11/06 T1 |
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Junior Advisor
Join Date: Apr 2009
City & State: Pittsburgh, PA
My Country: USA
Line Voltage: 120 VAC 60Hz
I'm a: Professional Tech
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Where do you live? Have you tried a local Electronics parts store? The hardest one to get is the 820's. I got mine on ebay.
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If you live in the USA, you can get the above from digikey.com. All below are Panasonic FM or FC (FC to meet the 20mm 820uF 25V cap). 470uF 10V http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=P12361-ND 220uF 35V http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=P12411-ND 820uf 25v http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=P11222-ND |
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thank, I will look into replacing them all
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Radioactive
Join Date: Aug 2007
City & State: tehas
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wouldn't a 1000uf 25v sax be sufficient?
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Grumpy Old Fart
Join Date: Aug 2005
City & State: Phoenix, AZ
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I dunno, wassa sax?
The Capxon KF series has fair ratings even though they are crap. http://www.capxongroup.com/files/KF%..._167573147.pdf For those two you at least Panasonic FC but FM are better. SY series doesn't show an 820uF 25v but judging by the lower uF values the same replacement choices [FC or better] are good enough. Umm, Those dimensions don't make any sense.
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I replaced the 3 caps and the problems still persists
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Is it possible that maybe you can post some pictures of the boards in question? When posting pics, use the "Manage Attatchments" on the posting screen.
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pics of the power supply
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Let's get a detailed description of what is happening. Properly can mean a lot of things.
For example, 1) Power on, get green LED. 2) no picture, no sound. OR 1) Power on, LED does not light 2) no picture, no sound Etc edit: Caps do not have to be bloated in order to be bad. You may have more bad caps on this board. Caps can be out of uF tolerance or have high ESR. For example, a 1000uF cap can measure 200uF. A cap can measure 8 ohm ESR which is very high. Neither of these 2 require a cap to be bloated. Also, do you have multimeter? Last edited by retiredcaps; 08-05-2010 at 10:46 PM.. |
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the Tv will power on but screen with flicker and turn off after a few secs.
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More details -> we can narrow down the problem more quickly. Multimeter? |
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Grumpy Old Fart
Join Date: Aug 2005
City & State: Phoenix, AZ
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Get rid of the OST RLS. [Actually all the OST's] - They will fail without bloating.
Also check the solder connections to the transformers for cracks or a dull appearance. - Because they are bigger than the other solder joints, when they machine solder sometimes those don't always get hot enough and you end up with a cold-solder joint. . |
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the picture works but will only stay one for about 30 sec or less, the power light flickers in and out, and yes i have a multimeter.
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edit: This youtube video will give you an idea of how bad soldering on an IC can cause a shutdown after a few seconds ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rePrm...eature=related Last edited by retiredcaps; 08-06-2010 at 11:40 AM.. |
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I checked the soldering and nothing looks to bad.
how would I test the caps with my multimeter and a few I would like to test maybe replace the OSt are 1500uf 35v and 820uf 35v Capxon 330uf 35v 2200uf 10v 4700uf 10v kzh the Tv used to stay on as long as you didnt turn it off, If the Tv didn't turn off after about one minute, you just had to unplug it and try again. cooling the broad seemed to have no effect. |
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It would not hurt to touch or resolder the joints.
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edit: Caps do not have to be bloated to be bad. Capxon is a brand hated by members here. Quote:
1) Have cover off so you can test the boards while the TV is running. 2) Power on the TV and check the secondary voltages (usually 5V DC, 12 V DC, and/or 19V DC). 3) When the TV shuts off, see if the secondary voltages are still present and stable. This will help narrow down the problem. |
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I did try to resolder most the joints
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It would help if you posted clear focused pictures of all your boards. Take your boards to a window on a sunny day and put your camera on macro mode. A top down picture of both sides on the board is all we need.
On your power board, I see 4 white connectors. It looks like the voltages are all marked. The connector that leads to the logic board (a board where your inputs plug into - hdmi, vga, svideo, etc) is the one we want to measure. Put all the boards back together. With your multimeter, put your black probe in common and your red probe on volts. Set your multimeter to the DC Volts. If it is a manual meter, set it to 20V DC. 1) Power on TV. 2) Put your black probe on a grounded screw on the logic board. This is your ground point. 3) Put your red probe on the logic card white connector. You are going to measure all the pins for voltages. What you are looking for is 5V, 12, and/or 19V DC. Some pins will be 0.0 for Ground. Write down all voltages 4) When the TV goes off, re-check all the pins on the logic card. Write down all voltages. If the voltages are stable on and off, we can assume that the power board is likely okay. |
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Radioactive
Join Date: Aug 2007
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seriously though, in the case of like a tv/monitor, would maybe a ruby 1000uf 25v work in place of a 820 25v?
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